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Postby leonmoomin » 10 Feb 2008, 00:26

Back on the subject of the original post, I've no objection to Leon posting promos here as long as there aren't too many of them - but could I suggest using the forum image upload mechanism rather than linking directly to the large pics?


That's a time issue!
It may sound a little lazy, but I do make a lot of update posts and it is much easier to use a standard hot link post!
I just have a copy of my posts code, BBE and html, without the pics urls, I just copy that to one forum, then fill in the picture urls! I then take that and paste it to other forums!

The ones in this thread are so large I have to scroll the forum sideways to read the text in the replies, which makes reading the thread unpleasant. If the images are uploaded in the forum's normal way, you get very good-sized "thumbnails" (they're much bigger than UMD ones, about 400 x 400 I think), and clicking on one opens the full-size version.


I know I have had to read the replies as well, lol!
Its only the landscape ones that create an issue and under normal circumstances it would only really be me who would want to read the replies! I guess this particular post was a little different in that it was part of a wider debate that involved the forum as a whole!
I personally don't really spend a lot of time reading other producer's feedback, perhaps that's just my self centered nature?

Also (and this is just a suggestion - comments from mods most welcome!), perhaps (and this should apply to all commercial producers who update very frequently (IIRC Leon you actually do daily updates?)) no more than one or two advert threads a week (though they can be updated as often as you like)? That way we don't end up with dozens of threads from the same source dominating the place.


I don't do daily updates, well not really!

propermessy - Mondays
Wetlook Unleashed - Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays
Streetsplash - Wednesdays
Lotsofmud - Fridays
leonmoomin.net - Saturdays
Jeansandpants - every other Sunday
Gunjee - Whenever we do an event

We don't do any updates on Tuesday and Thursday, lol! Only kidding, as i said in the start of my post, I would only post the updates of my messy sites here!

Propermessy on a Monday and Lotsofmud on a Friday!

As for taking an active role in the forums, I do, I always read them and join in when i have something to say! Just because I don't speak in the forums all the time on every subject, it does not mean that I am not taking an active part!
There are LOADS of people who just read the forums and say nothing, look how many views any post in here has!
There are lots of lurkers!
Also, lets face it, there aren't many subjects that I haven't already expressed an opinion in!

I am a commercial wam producer, guilty, as producing wam is all I do! By the same token, I am NOT a mainstream porn producer or multiple fetish producer who has just clicked onto the wam fetish for a fast buck!
I am a wam fan, just the same as everyone here, anyone who knows my history, knows where i came from and how I started! I started in the UMD in 2000, with some pictures of my girlfriend at the time, fully clothed in the bath!
What I have become afterwards is due to my being a wam fan, be that a "commercial" wam producer, so be it!

All the forums serve a purpose and having the producers in the forums also serve a purpose! We actually like to know what we are doing wrong or right, it helps us to produce the media that people want to see!
Yes its marketing, but where else would we sell wam?
True "spam" is adverts that are posted to loads of different forums and groups, it is stuff that is just posted everywhere, it is stuff that usually has absolutely nothing to do with the places it is posted!

I respect the way this forum is run and the way that it tries to only allow contributing adverts from producers, posts with pictures or clips, all my posts have these!
In fact on many occasions I give away full update sets, pictures AND clips!

Thanks everyone for your kind feedback!
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Postby DungeonMasterOne » 10 Feb 2008, 05:29

leonmoomin wrote:
could I suggest using the forum image upload mechanism rather than linking directly to the large pics?

That's a time issue!
It may sound a little lazy, but I do make a lot of update posts and it is much easier to use a standard hot link post!
I just have a copy of my posts code, BBE and html, without the pics urls, I just copy that to one forum, then fill in the picture urls! I then take that and paste it to other forums!
The ones in this thread are so large I have to scroll the forum sideways to read the text in the replies, which makes reading the thread unpleasant. If the images are uploaded in the forum's normal way, you get very good-sized "thumbnails" (they're much bigger than UMD ones, about 400 x 400 I think), and clicking on one opens the full-size version.

I know I have had to read the replies as well, lol!
Its only the landscape ones that create an issue and under normal circumstances it would only really be me who would want to read the replies! I guess this particular post was a little different in that it was part of a wider debate that involved the forum as a whole!
I personally don't really spend a lot of time reading other producer's feedback, perhaps that's just my self centered nature?


Thing is, it's not just you who'll want to read them. If I'm going to comment on a thread I always read all the other follow-ups to a post (or at least the ones added since I last read it) before adding one of my own, that's standard nettiquette. So if you make it hard to read the threads, you're hurting other people, not just yourself.

Understood about the time factor - the reason my latest update appeared here several days after it went on the UMD was down to getting the free time to create the post and caption the pics, and choosing a different set of pics to post. But even so, esp given Bill's comments about oversized pics, I'd strongly suggest working out some method where the images that appear in the threads here are small enough to let the forum display on a 1024 x 768 screen without disruption.

I don't know about other major producers like you (I don't count myself as a real commercial operator, Saturation Hall is more a paid hobby than a business - certainly doesn't make a profit!) - but I do tend to read the followups to most threads here, even the nude ones where I have no interest in the pics themselves, because the conversations that develop are what makes this an interesting forum to read.

leonmoomin wrote:As for taking an active role in the forums, I do, I always read them and join in when i have something to say! Just because I don't speak in the forums all the time on every subject, it does not mean that I am not taking an active part!


I know you're an "active" user, I've been seeing your posts on different forums for quite a while - starting on the Minx wetlook forum some years ack ISTR?

There are always loads of lurkers - ISTR the conventional wisdom on Usenet was there were always 97 lurkers for every 3 posters on any group, and that was an average - on some groups it was much higher.

leonmoomin wrote:I respect the way this forum is run and the way that it tries to only allow contributing adverts from producers, posts with pictures or clips, all my posts have these!
In fact on many occasions I give away full update sets, pictures AND clips!


Fair enough - I know you give away loads of stuff, I've even occasionally collected a few (mostly I don't go for the style of outfits you use, but just occasionally you've done one that was close enough to be of interest).

I've probbly waffled enough, time for other people to get a word in! Interestingly, now this thread has spread to 2 pages, the 2nd page is fine to read, as there are no pics showing.
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Postby andy250 » 10 Feb 2008, 14:50

I've met Leon I think twice now, yes he can be a fiesty so and so on the net cometimes, though its because he is passionate about what he does, 5 mins in the pub with him tells you that.

He does show outtakes and things that go wrong here is a quick example.

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Postby andy250 » 10 Feb 2008, 14:53

I love Lisa, language, when she realises it going wrong, and Leon having to get the person sorted out.

Their is another outtake from Big Dave site, where they go to the ice cream van for the hell of it in the middle of a set. The look on the neighbours face is brilliant, and the icecream man is speachless.....

I'll see if I can find the link later.

Though if you do meet them at the pub be aware that Lisa is rather partical to bottles of becks.........

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Postby andy250 » 10 Feb 2008, 15:02

Here we go the outake with ice cream van, proper funny...





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Postby messy sarah » 10 Feb 2008, 15:39

hi,enjoy your pics ,the models are very actractive, fab outfits ,but they never seam to wear stockings only tights,maybe you could vary this a bit (just some constuctive critism hope you dont mind)
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Postby slapstickfan » 10 Feb 2008, 21:05

The girl in the first set of pics is super hot. I remember seeing Moomin's work on the UMD so cool to see some samples here :D

I do think it will be better to try and keep the number of producers on here down to a minimum though to prevent the flood gates opening and filling threads plugging downloads etc. Thats why I find this site more attractive than the UMD. May be Moomin can provide a full set of pics to put on the freehouse like others do and get involved in a few threads that are not selling their stuff. What I like about Moomin's work is the outdoor element is well covered so I'll be looking forward to seeing more pics.
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Postby Richard » 10 Feb 2008, 21:32

andy250 wrote:I've met Leon I think twice now, yes he can be a fiesty so and so on the net cometimes, though its because he is passionate about what he does, 5 mins in the pub with him tells you that.

Andy is right to say that Leon is a perfectionist. If you listen to his voice on the videos (he is taking the stills) you will hear him giving the models precise directions as to how they should pose. He's also a very nice bloke though!
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Postby Sploshman » 10 Feb 2008, 23:16

easy_as_ wrote:Nice to see the lovely Lisa and Steph getting muddy !

Great pics , as always !

Hurrah !

:D


Agreed.

Leon, you do get some sexy angels to get messy for you bruv :).
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Postby Lizzie_Claymore » 17 Feb 2008, 01:03

Mike Nomic wrote:
Claymore_wam wrote: I'd love to know where that deep muddy creek is that features so often.


I believe that to be on the River Avon near Bristol.


Indeed, but which bit? I'm always intrigued to see if I can find locations on Google Earth!
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Postby leonmoomin » 17 Feb 2008, 02:25

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Postby Mike Nomic » 17 Feb 2008, 03:10



Well there you have it, Claymore, from the horse's (sorry, Leon) mouth.

In Leon's other thread, with Steph ruining an office outfit, you can see in the background of the first picture the Portishead Cruising Club. You can Google that; select the location and view that on their Multimap pop-up, then Google Earth the location - you can see the boats in the creek, and the rowing boats leant against the front of the clubhouse. Indeed at max close-up, you can almost make out the joints in the stones on the floor of the channel down which the girls walk.

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Postby Lizzie_Claymore » 17 Feb 2008, 13:42

Thanks guys. It's not like I'm going to come all the way down there to go mudding (totally impractical for me) but it is handy to know what sort of features to look for on Google Earth for up here. Sadly, I've not spotted anything similar to that within easy striking distance up here that's also accessible and sufficiently private for my liking. In fact I don't think I've seen a mud build up as good as that anywhere that I've looked! I'll keep looking though.

I bet the people on the opposite bank enjoy the view of Lisa or Steph going in the mud. Perhaps I should take very early retirement and buy a house on the opposite bank, as well as a telescope! (If only!) LoL.

Incidentally, does the concrete ramp continue quite a way or are the girls already unsupported by the time they've gone the few feet into the gloop?

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Postby Sploshman » 17 Feb 2008, 21:19

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Postby leonmoomin » 18 Feb 2008, 00:37

Well Sploshman!

If you look at the picture, there is a building behind the mud, that is a rather large pub called the Lamplighters!

Pay particular attention to the view from the pub!

http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~hyde/Englan ... hters.html

Also, beware the sailing club secretary, Dragon woman! The slipway is part of the sailing club, whilst the male sailing club people had no problem whatsoever with our girls (surprise, surprise), the female club secretary actually kicked us out!

Like I said, dare you to use it! :twisted:
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