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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby Spinynorman and Frilly » 20 Nov 2011, 00:30

I think the mistake that I was making was trying to play it before it had finished downloading. :oops:
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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby messyfun1 » 20 Nov 2011, 21:28

Glad to hear it is looking well for you, and I appreciate the feedback! I have some different hardware on order that will hopefully make the process a bit quicker and increase the quality as well! I'm trying to find the best combination of quality/file size/compatibility as I will be basically redoing a lot of Rob's old catalog. I will keep you updated and be sure to let you know when the first videos are uploaded!
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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby ACwammer » 21 Nov 2011, 11:43

The video played fine in Windows Media PLayer on a Windows 7 machine. Thanks for the sample.
There are the interlace lines which show up on fast movement - I guess it is a trade of of blurring the image edges with deinterlace, or leave them as is.

Do you have all of the videos featuring Chase still?
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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby Lizzie_Claymore » 22 Nov 2011, 02:14

It is mathematically impossible to completely hide the temporal effects of an interlaced recording so as to make it totally suitable for display on a progressive display device (e.g. computer video card or LCD monitor). De-interlacing algorithms do what they can but they can never solve the problem completely as the two fields were recorded at different instants so any movement which occurs in the time between the two fields being recorded will always show a discrepancy when displayed at the same time (i.e. as a complete frame) rather than as two fields (as would have been the case with a 'real' video signal being shown on a CRT).

The only way you get perfect reconstruction is if nothing at all moves in the image ... which doesn't make for very interesting telly! This is why all good video engineers know that progressive scan is the sensible way forward but the marketing people knackered that by 'selling' 1080/25i "as it's got a bigger number than 720/50p" (which is the standard for emission recommended by the EBU for years) so "1080 must be better"! Wrong! Doh!

What we want is 1080/50p but with cameras able to do that at about £80k-£100k each when fully kitted up (e.g. Sony HDCAM SR) and no satisfactory method of transmission to the masses, that's a standard only used by the broadcasters for top-end content creation, prior to down-conversion to either 1080/25i or 720/50p for transmission and distribution. The rest of us manage with 720/50p for content creation, though some people (wanting the jerky/flickery cinema effect) opt for 1080/25p. It all has a significant effect on the image quality but, sadly, most people don't understand enough about what's going on there to make an effective decision.

(All Rob's stuff would have been SD, of course and in 525/29.97i, which is a bugger to convert to European standards nicely (576/25i) but viewing de-interlaced on PC at 29.97 is probably the nearest compromise.)
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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby splat182002 » 22 Nov 2011, 14:10

What's he talking about? :?
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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby Lizzie_Claymore » 23 Nov 2011, 01:44

Oh dear - I have that effect sometimes! Lol.
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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby BillShipton » 24 Nov 2011, 11:24

So are you doing this with the real Messy Fun's agreement?
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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby bubbabob » 26 Nov 2011, 21:16

I'm not sure what editing software you're using, but if you boost the chroma a bit, and take the blue into yellow a smidge, you'll get a lot of color definition back.
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Re: Rob Blaine

Postby messyfun1 » 06 Dec 2011, 08:08

Sorry for such a late response! The last few times I got on I had technical difficulties posting! First off thanks to everyone for taking a look, the official previews for 1 new clip and 2 remastered clips from MFV1 - My Friend Shaun, are now up on the main messyfun.com site! And if you like what you see the actual clips are even better quality, and will be up soon!

I am sorry it took so long to respond Bill, I am working with Brittany on all of this, and all this work is for the company. Luckily I have been given a lot of freedom to mold the site, and although I never got to meet Rob in life, I feel like I have gotten to know him a little working with so much of his old material and reading his old posts on the original site.

We have some really great things planned, and hope to have you all along with us!
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