Humiliation

[jo_yo]

Hi everyone,

I was sitting in the bath at lunchtime (in my work clothes!) and I was trying to identify what it is about sploshing that appeals to me. I think that a large part of it is the humiliation aspect. I think I'm sometimes quite an assertive person but I seem happiest when I'm submitting to someone... feeling used and abused and all that. I love the preparation that comes with a sploshing session, and the anticipation is sometimes more exciting than actually doing it.

This session really appeals to me:

As a birthday present or a forfeit for losing a bet (either would be fine!) I would have someone look in my wardrobe and decide what I should wear, then I would be taken to a fetish club (or at least somewhere with open-minded people) and tied to a chair, and gagged. I would be forced to sit near the reception area and there would be custard, squirty cream, gravy, paint and various other sploshing ingredients along with a sign on the desk saying:

"The person in front of you is required to sit in her chair for 3 hours. She is not allowed to speak, but she can answer simple yes or no questions by moving her head. In front of you you will find various messy substances and if you choose you may cover her in whatever substances you like. However, this is purely optional, and if she leaves here tonight as clean as when she started she will have enjoyed herself just as much. She doesn't have a change of clothing so she will be going home in the clothes she is wearing. The decision is yours. Have a good evening everyone."

The thought of that is immensely exciting! If I went home clean then I would be just as happy as if I went home covered in gunk. To me, it's the humiliation aspect that appeals the most.

[brick]

That's a really interesting scenario. I don't personally find real humiliation arousing but I am really interested in the aspect of being tied up or otherwise immobilised and giving someone you trust carte blanche over what you get covered with and for how long you are to be subjected to it.

[glove-n-pie]

I also like the idea of that scenario, for me it would have to be pies/desserts than savory stuff mind, but being incapacitated and potentially gunged is quite powerful stuff, the anticipation of the event and the anticipation of having to travel home messy is quite erotic. Tho anticipation for me is (mostly) far more powerful than the events themselves.

I have had similar fantasies of being somewhere public, i.e. the city centre, and someone pushing a pie in my face as they walk by, and have the same thing happen a few times during the day.

Andy.

[Squelch]

Yeah, I can go with that scenario jo_yo Firstly that you have no control over what you might be asked to wear. Secondly, the anticipation that you could sit there all clean for 2 hours 55 minutes and then be totally trashed by someone on a whim in the last 5 minutes Love it

[wamcat]

Is it all about humiliation? For me as a guy who enjoys seeing ladies messed up, I would be gutted if the girl was actually humiliated.

I can see that for someone normally in a position of power, losing that power and handing it over to people whose trust is perhaps not guaranteed may be interesting. I can also appreciate that seeing that happen to someone from authority may also be equally interesting to some.

For me though I think it’s more about learning about someone and being given the permission to learn. Normally you don’t get to stare at people and closely observe them unless they explicitly give you permission to do so. A person standing on a stage gives you permission to look; a person dragged from an audience has only reluctantly given permission.

So what is it about seeing a woman messed that attracts me? I believe it’s that their reactions are real. Natural performers are acting and hiding themselves, what you see often feels fake. Reluctant performers are normally hiding much of themselves, what you see are defenses. When you see someone covered in gunge you often see the persons “this isn’t happening” reactions, the “oh dear it is happening” and the “oh dear what happened to me” reaction, and these reactions are involuntary and real.

As suggested by the original poster, seeing (or feeling) the “this could happen” reaction can be as exciting as the “it happened” reaction. I probably prefer the “it happened” reaction merely because all the other mental baggage of enjoying the event makes it so and there’s no disappointment of a missed opportunity. That said sometimes the possibility is more exciting than the actual event when it happens.

Obviously everyone here is here for different reasons, subtle differences and not so subtle difference. But for me the subject is never humiliated, rather they’re revealing more about themself.

[driversoft]

This is definitely one of the more fascinating threads on here. I can empathise entirely with the fantasy, as expressed originally, and appreciate it's attraction. I've enjoyed Sploshing (as an occasional participant, but mostly voyeur) since about 3 BS (Before Splosh [the Magazine]!), yet wamcat has offered me a new way of thinking about some of the aspects that appeal to me.

Perhaps true humiliation can only come from being made to do something we genuinely don't want to do. Is it humiliating if we WANT to do something that just happens to be conventionally humiliating?

[Richard]

I agree with most of wamcat's opinions. When I have a sploshing session I have no wish to humiliate the the young lady, nor do I feel humiliated myself. To me it is 'role-play' and I go to great efforts to invent a scenario which we can both play out when we have agreed the 'script'. Of course it is very flexible and we will both improvise as we go along.

Taking a pie in the face or a bucket of slosh over the head in such a controlled situation is very different to being hit in the face with a pie whilst going about one's normal business. I would find the latter most unpleasant and not at all sexy, whereas I find the preparation and anticipation of an arranged session very exciting. Knowing what is about to happen makes it all the more enjoyable and I can re-live the experience in my mind if not in pictures.

[paperclips6]

Facinating debate.

I have to agree that the origional proposed scenario is something that I like the sound of and would like to have a go at.
As mentioned I feel that one of the main appealing factors is that though you're at the mersy of others it is still a controlled scene that ultimatly you'd have votenteered for.

I've always wanted to do something like this myself, though maybe not as extreme (I couldn't sit still half that long!), but would still revolve around the idea of seemingly getting messy publicly without the ability to stop it at the time. Though to any onlooker it would seem like humiliation or at least amusing I would sectretly be enjoying it.
Ultimatly what would happen is that I'd be part of a pre-planned (scripted) event which I'd have planned myself and would have had lots of say over where it happens, what I'd be wearings, what sort of mess, times, location and so on... If you think about it that's quite a lot of things to control.

[Cake Battered]

I'm not interested in the humiliation aspect, but I do love the idea of being out of control of a wam session, as long as I trusted the person doing the deed. It seems really exciting to not know what's coming next, or where it's going!

[messyalan]

I too love the whole idea of someone else being in control. I did a series of videos using dice and lottery numbers to decided what I wore and what my fate was but someone else picking the clothes and situation would be fantastic. A few ground rules may need to be discussed first of course! Dressed as a female in a bath of beans in my office wouldn't work for me!

Alan

[pieclown]

Hi,

I have clown in a pie booth. I had no control on who threw the pies or how well the pies hit. Most did not. I have also done dunk tanks. These are not the same, but you do loose the control element as when we perform a skit. I have been in public for these and had to be clown. We sort of, the dunk tank had me in drag as a mermaid or clownfish.

This is a great discussion.

[iainecgunge]

I think for me he humiliation is more a fantasy because sploshing for me is about having fun. I love the squirms and grimacing you sometimes see as a girl sits in the tank anticipating the inevitable horrible gunging. However, the general reaction during and after the gunging is laughter, the thought of the experience being far worse than it actually is. In most cases, perceived humiliation is more acting as the victim plays the role (look at the various scenes where mess of some description falls on someone in TV/films and they stand there for full effect whereas anyone else would step out of the way!)