WamPrincess... a 'what ever happened to' thread....

[snake]

I was browsing my rather large collection of WAM files and stumbled across some pictures from the seemingly now defunct WAMprincess.com site.

Does anyone know where she is now and if she plans to do any more? I thought her style was FANTASTIC - great messing and some amazing facial expressions.

see for your self... here's a few images that I took great pleasure in choosing....

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WAMprincess2.jpg (145.19 KiB) Viewed 8281 times

WAMprincess3.jpg (187.41 KiB) Viewed 8281 times

...and, does anyone know who the other girl that features in two of these photoshoots is? she is super hot!

[ruegger]

Man I was just thinking about her the other day and going "I wonder what happened to her". I loved her humiliation-style WAM, and yes, her facial expressions where the best in the biz. I also loved the elegant outfits she and her girls used to wear. I'm sorry, I can't help you with any of the names of the other girls.

~ruegger~

[Phantom]

Yeah - they sure did great messy scenes. They often mixed savoury with sweet which I liked. Great outfits. Knicker filling. Wam Princess ticked all the boxes.

[Blue Jelly Balls]

She sure was great, very beautiful & had a true understanding of the whole Splosh thang. Man i miss those yukky buckets

[La Perla]

Oh yes, I would be most upset if Claire, the WAM Princess, had decided not to offer any more fabulous images.

Her style [which includes attractive participants, full glamorous make-up, sexy wardrobe, quality set-lighting and good photography], uses gunge and various coloured mess to very successful [i.e. arousing] effect.

I like Claire herself and the way in which she puts herself or her colleague/s in 'peril'. I think one of her best presentations was the one where she was involved with a crossdressed man-friend and they both got very messy indeed totally ruining make-up and smart costumes including hats and accessories.

It's all in the attitude. None of the prissy, 'duck-the-head' or 'lean-forward-and-avoid-the-gunge' responses which really don't show anything to good effect. In fact, it's just boring and a waste of gunge; it all goes on the floor instead of 'on' or 'in' the clothes.

Some time ago Mr Bill Shipton used a pro model called Louise Hodges [aka L'amour or Armani, etc] who was great. She, like Claire, always looked as though it was fun being sploshed. As though the feel of the gunge was exciting, even sexy. As indeed it is, or should be. Another good messy girl was Linzi Drew.

I hope that Claire is aware of this interest in her whereabouts and responds in the most positive and really messy way.

[andy250]

What happened to wam princess Claire! Simple............

Her overheads out weighed her returns.......... hence no more.............

We had a model work for us, who had worked on Claire's sets, the problem with the model when we employed her was cost.

We had to pay for everything!!! So basically it looks like the following. The models took Claire for a ride, long term it cost her the website.

regards

Andy
(waits for everybody to complain!)

[BillShipton]

When you say you had to pay the model for 'everything', what does 'everything' include?

I met Clare several times and indeed she worked for Gilly's Silly House several times prior to setting up on her own. We (that is Clare, her husband-to-be and myself) sat in the pub afterwards discussing the 'business' and she struck me as quite shrewd so I'm not sure that she would be ripped off easily.

I do know that she got married and had at least one child and that does change your desire/availability for sploshing.

[andy250]

'Everything' means quite simply that Bill, most of the models will supply certain things to go with a shoot.

The lady in question insited that we supplied all her clothes, travelling expenses, a higher free than the other models,
more tea and coffee than Feral could actually make! You can see where this going....... So if Claire was supplying all the the clothes etc.?

The cost mounts up, I do know that on one shoot. They got to set to find out the owner had double booked the location, so the set was
cancelled, yet she still paid the girls there full fee! This she actually spoke about that on umd before she retired? also dvds getting lost in the post, so that updates never got to the webmaster.... So if she's admitting to those problems, not a shrewd as she makes out.

I totally respect the marriage aspect, as well as having children. That changes there life, I would expect nothing less.

regards

Andy

[muckypup]

Isn't it normal to have to pay all that stuff? I know that models may generally have their own clothes for glamour shoots and the like, but if you are messing the outfits up and potentially damaging them would the site owner not have to pay for that?

If I were a model (I can but dream ) and I got to a shoot and through no fault of my own it were cancelled I'd probably expect to be paid too, and then it'd be up to the person booking it to recover the costs from the studio if it were their fault or just suck it up. Having said that I imagine a lot of producers time and money can be wasted by no-shows so maybe it works itself out!

Sometimes I'm glad I'm not a producer, I can't believe many people other than the big sites make any money at all.

[andy250]

Isn't it normal to have to pay all that stuff? I know that models may generally have their own clothes for glamour shoots and the like, but if you are messing the outfits up and potentially damaging them would the site owner not have to pay for that?

If I were a model (I can but dream ) and I got to a shoot and through no fault of my own it were cancelled I'd probably expect to be paid too, and then it'd be up to the person booking it to recover the costs from the studio if it were their fault or just suck it up. Having said that I imagine a lot of producers time and money can be wasted by no-shows so maybe it works itself out!

Sometimes I'm glad I'm not a producer, I can't believe many people other than the big sites make any money at all.

Your most deffo in a dream Pup!

regards

Andy

[Mike Nomic]

Isn't it normal to have to pay all that stuff? I know that models may generally have their own clothes for glamour shoots and the like, but if you are messing the outfits up and potentially damaging them would the site owner not have to pay for that?

If I were a model (I can but dream ) and I got to a shoot and through no fault of my own it were cancelled I'd probably expect to be paid too, and then it'd be up to the person booking it to recover the costs from the studio if it were their fault or just suck it up. Having said that I imagine a lot of producers time and money can be wasted by no-shows so maybe it works itself out!

Sometimes I'm glad I'm not a producer, I can't believe many people other than the big sites make any money at all.

Your most deffo in a dream Pup!

regards

Andy

I think Pup is most definitely in the real world.

When I do a shoot, I pay the girls fees, travelling, accommodation, meals, etc and provide the outfits - I can't think of any respectable producer who doesn't.

Maybe yours is the dream world, Andy.

Mike.

[BillShipton]

Isn't it normal to have to pay all that stuff? I know that models may generally have their own clothes for glamour shoots and the like, but if you are messing the outfits up and potentially damaging them would the site owner not have to pay for that?

If I were a model (I can but dream ) and I got to a shoot and through no fault of my own it were cancelled I'd probably expect to be paid too, and then it'd be up to the person booking it to recover the costs from the studio if it were their fault or just suck it up. Having said that I imagine a lot of producers time and money can be wasted by no-shows so maybe it works itself out!

Sometimes I'm glad I'm not a producer, I can't believe many people other than the big sites make any money at all.

We certainly pay fee, travel, accommodation (hence our preference for local models!) and supply clothes unless the model has something she wants to destroy. Since we use our own studio we don't have to worry about double booking BUT if it's a no-show private session I try and pay the model something (usually about half what they would get) if I've booked them. That's why we have to take deposits these days - too many time-wasters in the past.

I suspect Mike is more lavish in his accommodation than us though! Marina Lodge B&B is our favourite and the Decadent Doll Suite is usually available (£28) but beware the owners will give us a full report when you come in pissed at 3am and can't finish your 8am breakfast (even though it's usually my fault).

If anyone enters professional sploshing for the money they are in for a nasty shock. At best, it is a paid-for hobby.

[andy250]

Bill pretty much has it right, we do things in a similar way.

On the clothing aspect, what you have to rememeber is when you are watching a download, etc, etc. That model may have been
with us all day. The reason for that is we'll have been shooting for diffrent fetish's all day. So the model earns a decent fee for the day,
so nine times out of ten. If we are sticking a messy scene into the workload. They dont mind using an outfit of there own. Unless it a speciaised/themed shoot. Then I normally purchase the outfits as they can be used to shoot other work, for other fetish sites. Ie I dont buy for just one shoot.......

As for cancellation's it never happened yet, but if it did they would mostly likely get about 25-30% of there fee to cover there travel
expenses for the day. I would not pay them 100% which was what made me laugh about Pup's comment.

Here endeth how to make money from sploshing ie you cannot!!! you must have another form of media/incorme.

regards

Andy

[matty81]

this topic is diversifying a little!could any of u producers have helped her?i know she was technically a rival site.its just a shame she packed up.i know a lot of us would love to see her grace this forum with her antics again!

[Richard]

Its not up to the other producers to help, matty. Its the likes of you and me, the customers who purchase her stuff (or not in this case!) who should have put our hands in our pockets to save her!!!