The First Wam Producer?

[Devo77]

This question was brought up on the UMD boards and I wonder
if anyone here would be able to say who they believe produced
the earliest messy sketches?

So far it seems Splosh seems to be one of them going all the
way back to the late 80s.

I know one could say it goes back to the earlier slapstick
comedies of Hollywood. But I guess the best way to be
more specific would be the first ones who did in for erotic
purposes.

[BillShipton]

Hi

Mike Ellison was shooting wet and messy stills along with people like Colin Twyford (wetlook and now sadly no longer with us) and Morris Bown (don't know) before Splosh! came along (ie in the early 80s). In fact, it was their work that made me decide there should be a magazine on this. WSM 1: The Hopeful Starlet (around 1989) was the first video they made and the first of the currently available batch. Old hands (even older than me!) may remember films like Muddy Minges (old 16 mm stuff) and may even have copies. That I imagine goes back to the late 60s but I have no idea who made it.

We have never pretended to be the first. As Mike Nomic will tell you (repeatedly), he even did a "magazine" before Splosh! called Hippo News. If you call photocopied A4 sheets a magazine (scoff, scoff!). All we did was to publicise wet and messy stuff more so that people who liked it knew there weren't alone by producing a proper mag and then later making videos that weren't £40 each (as the early stuff was).

Bill

[morepies]

Aquantics - run by Colin Twyford/Mike Ellison (I think). I answered an ad placed in Fiesta during the late 1980s. Back in those days the product consisted of slides, which you could slot into a hand-held viewer or project on to a screen. The technology was basic but the quality of the photography outstanding. Aquantics produced brochures describing the various scenarios depicted in the sets - which were well written and quite arousing in their own right.

[morepies]

Hmm, actually there were some older one-offs as well. Men Only did a mud wrestling feature in the early 80s. There were also some isolated American magazines depicting mud wrestling and one slapstick effort called 'Bondage under the Big Top' - a combination of circus and BDSM (I kid you not) featuring custard pies. But I think Aquantics were the first specialist producers.

The big picture for me runs Aquantics, Splosh, Crazy Girls, MessyFun, Piefightgirls, umd. Producer-wise, Mike Ellison, Colin Twyford, Roger Carpenter (& David Wilkie if you include wetlook), Bill Shipton, Brian (Crazy Girls), Rob Blaine, & Neil (piefight girls).

I think also that wam/sploshing took new directions thanks to Phoebe and Messygirl. Finally, some of the early models deserve a lot of credit for their input into making the genre successful - eg Carol, Debbie & Sammie.

[BillShipton]

Aquantics - run by Colin Twyford/Mike Ellison (I think). I answered an ad placed in Fiesta during the late 1980s. Back in those days the product consisted of slides, which you could slot into a hand-held viewer or project on to a screen. The technology was basic but the quality of the photography outstanding. Aquantics produced brochures describing the various scenarios depicted in the sets - which were well written and quite arousing in their own right.

Aquantics was born out of Wet Shots (the company originally set up by Mike Ellison in the mid 80s) when Mike's business partner ran off, so Aquantics weren't first. Roger Carpenter was, of course, the organisational man behind Aquantics (Colin, Mike & Morris were the photographers) and probably wrote the descriptions.

[WamNick]

Old hands (even older than me!) may remember films like Muddy Minges (old 16 mm stuff) and may even have copies. That I imagine goes back to the late 60s but I have no idea who made it.

I had a copy, now long gone, and it was for it's time amazing - although it was 8mm and silent but in colour. If I can remember correctly, and forgive the correction Bill, it came out in the early 70's and was a simple scene of two naked girls throwing mud at each other and then total coverage followed by some rather naughty business in close up.

The producer was a company called Mistral Films - would be great if somebody had a transfer copy or some screen shots.

I did find this on the net a few years ago:

[BillShipton]

I bow to your superior knowledge WAMnick. I have never even seen it though lots of people talk about it in awe even now.