Has anyone ever encountered a public messing while just out?

[driversoft]

No tricking a woman into agreeing to have sex with you is not rape at all it is seduction if you are only using charisma and charm.

But if you merely tricked a woman into thinking that you were a great guy by changing your fashion, image and your personality then that would not be considered rape at all. That is what pick up gurus teach.

Weirder and weirder - so you believe, Stonecastle, that you'll never be the person you have to 'trick' women into believing you are (albeit temporarily, for sex), and then you wonder why this strategy isn't working.... and, amazingly, blame yourself!

PT Barnum (or allegedly he) was right after all....

[andy250]

I find the last comment from Stonecastle actually worrying. Mods please keep a close eye on this thread.

regards

Andy

[zoegunge]

yeah

that freaks me out: you should never even have to consider 'tricking' someone into sex, wrong, wrong, wrong.

seduction isn't tricking someone.

[DecadentDoll]

I'd like to trick Stonecastle into a pit of man eating lions. Although, given that he wants to resort to trickery and methods we consider abuse, i doubt his manhood...the lions may well spit him out.

*keeping a close eye on the thread* cheers guys

Doll
xxxxx

[DecadentDoll]

As it happens, after the More magazine article I did have some cheeky girls throw Baileys at me in a club, shouting "you love it dont you?"

Now, although I have a messy fetish, when im dolled up for a night out I'd rather someone didn't wreck my hair. I had them kicked out of the club, and technically I could have done them for assault.

Now, pre arrange to mess me up and im fine. If I would complain, then what would the women stonecastle tricks do?

[Richard]

I think we have all done our best to dissuade our friend from:
a) making a fool of himself.
b) getting himself arrested.
c) getting beaten up.

Now we should leave him alone to go his own way and accept the consequences of his actions. No-one can say we didn't warn him!

[glove-n-pie]

This thread is really getting scary.

Stone castle you are on the wrong side of weird in your beliefs. What you are suggesting is lieing and deceiving (read in your language "tricking") some one into being pied or gunged.

Masters of seduction who can charm women in to wanting them do not IMO deceive outright they know what makes a woman tick and can use that to their advantage hopefully to bed them. This is not 'tricking' but making the woman think the guy is really great, smooth words, body language, looks all play a part. Isn't this what we do anyhow when looking for a mate?

Give up stonecastle, your ain't going to make every one believe that your idea is great and not dodgy and illegal at all. Your most likely to get your self banned if you continue down this line of thought and persistence of similar posts.

Just my 2p worth any how

Cheers.

[glove-n-pie]

I think we have all done our best to dissuade our friend from:
a) making a fool of himself.
b) getting himself arrested.
c) getting beaten up.

Now we should leave him alone to go his own way and accept the consequences of his actions. No-one can say we didn't warn him!

Well said.

[ThatsUnfairTV]

Wow! Well let me be the 1000000th to say stonecastle, that it is not recommended to do this out of the blue.

We have made that mistake quite a bit of times in our infancy stages of developing the sitcom. If you notice about the later clips that are released, the girl knows she is entering a trivia game and knows that there will be a consequence RATHER than just having gunge fall on her unexpectedly.

Now, the public fines are another story as I stopped filming anywhere with carpet anymore. Still paying for a replacement carpet for a shoe store one that we did! (startplug...released next week at thatsunfairtv.com...endplug).

[Etonman]

yeah

that freaks me out: you should never even have to consider 'tricking' someone into sex, wrong, wrong, wrong.

seduction isn't tricking someone.

"Tricking" someone, man or woman, into doing anything is totally immoral, sometimes illegal, and will never bring you any real satisfaction... the person who you've tricked will move on, no doubt despising you, and you'll just be back exactly where you started.

It's a million miles different from presenting yourself honestly to a potential partner...being presentable and fun to know, laughing with them, getting to know them and their interests and aims, sharing a drink or meal, or anything from clubbing to an opera, whatever you both enjoy.

O.K., it won't always develop into a great relationship, but you'll have a good time, and good memories....and not finish up with the person hating you as a liar and cheat.

Anyway, 'nuff said....I agree with Richard(sotonude)...Stonecastle has now had similar honest advice from several quite different people here, we can't help any more.

[wamram]

I think we have all done our best to dissuade our friend from:
a) making a fool of himself.
b) getting himself arrested.
c) getting beaten up.

Now we should leave him alone to go his own way and accept the consequences of his actions. No-one can say we didn't warn him!

Well said Rich, I agree with everything you've said.

I don't think Stonecastle will ever listen to good advice

[stonecastle]

yeah. that freaks me out: you should never even have to consider 'tricking' someone into sex, wrong, wrong, wrong. seduction isn't tricking someone.

Why should sucess with women be confined to pop stars, film stars and footballers. Why shouldn't the ordinary man in the street be allowed to experience similar success? If you want to be successful with women then you will have to trick them into thinking you are what pick up gurus call 'The Alpha Male'.

If you want to be successful with women then you have to understand that women are fussy and only go for high value males, therefore you have to try to pretend to be a high value male.

A high value male is a leader, is ambitious, has a choice in women, is confident and arrogant. ie when he speaks everyone else listens. Has great fashion sense, etc. All these things can be faked by ordinary men. This story in the News of The World shows what I mean: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/bb/0107_shab.shtml

[glove-n-pie]

yeah. that freaks me out: you should never even have to consider 'tricking' someone into sex, wrong, wrong, wrong. seduction isn't tricking someone.

Why should sucess with women be confined to pop stars, film stars and footballers. Why shouldn't the ordinary man in the street be allowed to experience similar success? If you want to be successful with women then you will have to trick them into thinking you are what pick up gurus call 'The Alpha Male'.

If you want to be successful with women then you have to understand that women are fussy and only go for high value males, therefore you have to try to pretend to be a high value male.

A high value male is a leader, is ambitious, has a choice in women, is confident and arrogant. ie when he speaks everyone else listens. Has great fashion sense, etc. All these things can be faked by ordinary men. This story in the News of The World shows what I mean: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/bb/0107_shab.shtml

That is just so wrong.

Stonecastle, just give it up. What has success got to do with it? Why do you think most women are fussy? Are you really unattractive, have creepy traits?

You need to get to know women as friends (as some one else pointed out, sorry I can not remember who atm.) Build a trusting friendship, women are not just for bedding (but it is a plus ) if there is an attraction then things may come of it. You can never have too many friends.

And to be real mate (term used very loosely) your presence here could be deterring more women from this very board.

Just give up this angle you have on 'tricking' to get what you want.

(The news of the world article is probably pure fiction any way, knowing that paper.)

[Candy Custard]

yeah. that freaks me out: you should never even have to consider 'tricking' someone into sex, wrong, wrong, wrong. seduction isn't tricking someone.

Why should sucess with women be confined to pop stars, film stars and footballers. Why shouldn't the ordinary man in the street be allowed to experience similar success? If you want to be successful with women then you will have to trick them into thinking you are what pick up gurus call 'The Alpha Male'.

If you want to be successful with women then you have to understand that women are fussy and only go for high value males, therefore you have to try to pretend to be a high value male.

A high value male is a leader, is ambitious, has a choice in women, is confident and arrogant. ie when he speaks everyone else listens. Has great fashion sense, etc. All these things can be faked by ordinary men. This story in the News of The World shows what I mean: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/bb/0107_shab.shtml

wrong, wrong wrong wrong wrong.

on SO many levels.

I cant even be bothered to explain, you have been told very elqouently stonecastle and its just not getting through is it?

All I will say is thank god people like you in this world are very few and far between, leaving the honest people who just be themselves to have all the genuine, loving fun

If you want to be 'sucessfull' with someone like me a lovely personality , gsoh and above all integrity is the only way to go - and you cant fake that.

FIN

[Candy Custard]

and well said glove n pie xxxxxxxxx