tonights fantasy !

[zoegunge]

If a man can make me laugh, it works well... so bad jokes which I can groan at and flirt slightly with a 'you're a div ' style retorts are what gets me interested.

Also, I am not too interested in a man who is obsessed with appearance... I hate pretty boys who spend hours on their hair.

[andy250]

You could have a nigt out with Bills Beard!!!!!!! he he he he.............

Or Easy's orange shirt!!!!! though you never get lost in London just look out for the shirt.........

I'll have to buy easy pint next time for that one.

regards

Andy

p.s. Easy, whats going wrong with the Gunners, those people from Manchester are going to get the league again!!!!

[easy_as_]

If a man can make me laugh, it works well... so bad jokes which I can groan at and flirt slightly with a 'you're a div ' style retorts are what gets me interested.

I also do a great line in deliberate mis-understandings too, I can chuck that in for half price in the deal too ! That was hair plural rather than hair singular, wasn't ?

Now, if I only I had realised that every woman that has ever called me ' a div ' was flirting with me . . . . . . . . . somebody should write that down in a book, it could revoloutionise dating science.

Next I'll find out a slap in the face and a drink over the head is a sure fire come-on, green light from a Sploshing Mistress . . . . . how could I have been so blind !

The shirt rocks, as it should with Jimi H. on it ! I'll gladly accept pints for whatever reason, within reason of course.

As for the Gooners, they are but mortals and young ones at that. You can't win anything with kids as a certain pundit would have had you believe !!!! Still only halfway through the season, tis a marathon not a sprint , stop that snickering all you Tottenham fans . . . .

Sometimes I feel the need to point my jokes out too, as they are often very funny but too subtle. Fortunately in this case I haven't had to stoop to this level . . . . . see if you can see what I did there !

I may give prizes !

easy_as_

[stonecastle]

You lot obviously know nothing about the seduction community. It teaches the best methods which are proven to work.

Methods such as not expressing interest in a woman until you have built up rapport, not asking loads of questions, but expanding on the answers a woman gives you, using touching at key emotional points in a conversation etc are all proven to work.

I have met loads of these guys from the LSS forum and some of them in action too. I have also been to their seminars and heard and understood why this stuff works.

By the way pick up artists do not follow advice blindly they do customise routines and methods to suit their own personality. But they obey a basic structure and keep to it most of the time.

[Etonman]

You lot obviously know nothing about the seduction community. It teaches the best methods which are proven to work.

Methods such as not expressing interest in a woman until you have built up rapport, not asking loads of questions, but expanding on the answers a woman gives you, using touching at key emotional points in a conversation etc are all proven to work.

I have met loads of these guys from the LSS forum and some of them in action too. I have also been to their seminars and heard and understood why this stuff works.

By the way pick up artists do not follow advice blindly they do customise routines and methods to suit their own personality. But they obey a basic structure and keep to it most of the time.

I'll admit that I know nothing about the Seduction Community, which is why I asked these questions in my last posting:-

1) How many dates have you, personally, obtained through use of these systems.
2) Do you really believe everything which you read on internet forums?
(referring in this case to the number of women which experts brag about having bedded)

But you don't answer them...you just seem to "knock" or doubt those of us who, despite being very ordinary plain blokes, seem to get what we want out of life by just "being ourselves" with the fair sex.

I still don't think that you can make rules about how you should interact with anyone, man or woman, it depends entirely on the person and the circumstances.

And these "field-tested techniques" sound remarkably like certain expensive "Hot Selling" and "Make yourself a Millionaire by Positive Thinking" seminars which I have had the misfortune to attend (and sleep through) before I learned more business sense.

[ralph]

... and, of course, if all else fails there is always the fallback position of a Rohypnol shandy.

Did anyone mention custard pies? No? Oh good!! Phew, for one minute I thought I was on a forum for mess lovers!!

[DecadentDoll]

I havent studied seduction but I have had my fair share of wonderful times with some wonderful funny gorgeous guys... I didnt have to employ tricks... male friends of mine who aren't hot who simply tell jokes and are themselves have cock burn come Monday mornings.... Stonecastle you are clearly actually 100% insane and i suggest some form of help...honestly man..... all of us can't be wrong, ask people outside of this community of sleaze merchants and twats, the world would still be full of fucking and honest relationships if they didnt "operate"


GODDAMMNNNNNNN!!!!!

Dolly xxxxx

[snake]

I havent studied seduction but I have had my fair share of wonderful times with some wonderful funny gorgeous guys... I didnt have to employ tricks... male friends of mine who aren't hot who simply tell jokes and are themselves have cock burn come Monday mornings.... Stonecastle you are clearly actually 100% insane and i suggest some form of help...honestly man..... all of us can't be wrong, ask people outside of this community of sleaze merchants and twats, the world would still be full of fucking and honest relationships if they didnt "operate"


GODDAMMNNNNNNN!!!!!

Dolly xxxxx

well said Dolly....

lovin the phrase 'cock burn' !

[easy_as_]

lovin the phrase 'cock burn' !

The butler patiently informs his uncouth employer, seemingly for the umpteenth time . . . . .

" It is pronounced ' co - burn ', sir . "



I have vague recolections of an advert set in a very English drawing room/ study and a butler and a bottle of special reserve port . . . .


. . . well I was going to link it but I can't seem to find it anywhere at all ?
What a complete shame ! I remember it being very, very funny.

I must use it [ the joke ] ordering a drink for the lucky lady next time and then do a Leonard Rossiter ( not rhyming slang or euphemistic, in case you wondered ) over my ' Joan Collins ' stand in.
That should really get her going !
I bet they don't teach that in any Good Old Fashioned School of Lover Boys, eh ? . . . . ( slips into a Brian May solo . . . . . )

*** mental note :- reduce dosage and post later in the day when less alert ! ***

[zoegunge]

some of what you say stonecastle, is just plain common sense... social skills.

If these seducation techniques are so good, how come most men find people without using them? And how come most the seduction community seem to be single.

Most men can go into a club and take a lady home for a night... It isn't hard. So it may not be these techniques that work for them

I have been reading some seduction website stuff, and I find it creepy and disturbing.

I think you are taking it far too literally and putting too much effort into it. I would run a mile if someone came to me within 3 seconds and wanted me to qualify myself.

Every man and woman is different, and you would not use the same techniques in a club as you would in an evening class.

My advice, stop reading about the art of seduction.. it is an art, not a science, go out there and find approaches which work for you NOT for a totally different person.

[BillShipton]

Is it just me or do these seduction rules and Stonecastle's vehement defence of them sound a bit like one of those quasi-religions and their brainwashed members? Like I said before, preying on the lonely and insecure....

Surely one of the first questions has to be, do you want to find a girlfriend and soulmate or do you want to try and shag lots of women in clubs, bars and at bus stops? If it's the former then, definitely a more genuine approach would seem sensible. If it's the latter, then I haven't a clue. I have never done that nor wanted to.

As has already been said, social skills are mainly common sense. There is no 100 per cent, guaranteed way to seduce women (as far as I am aware). It depends on the woman, you and the circumstances. I think you should relax, try and find some self confidence (which basically is what all these rules - or Easy As's shirt and gags, my crap banter or ten pints of Stella - provide) and see people as what they are not something to be 'won over'.

It's meant to be fun.

[zoegunge]

indeed, I feel the seduction community is preying on the insecure, encouraging them to act in a particular way making false promices. I don't think it is a healthy way to live... viewing every interaction with a female as a 'potential pull', it certainly makes me want to run ten miles.


I fell in love with my boyfriend whilst watching him sing songs around a campfire to a group of sick children, dressed up in bizarre fancy dress... neither of us utilized seduction techniques.

If you want a one night stand, I get the impression many girls are not that fussy... but I am not really into one night stands.

It you want a girlfriend, it takes far longer than one carefully planned out conversation.

If the seducation community is so successful, why are many still single?

Stonecastle, I don't think it is for you, I think, maybe you need to work on your confidence in general.

[Hayley]

Been lurking on this one cos the villas I work for in Spain are being refurbed and the place is awash with hunky Spanish builders (all of whom are so full of 'pulling techniques' and self confidence that I hate them - even if they are good looking and buff as fuck - a lesson there?).

Every time I think of something funny to say on the subject, the real replies do it for me far more entertainingly. Believe me, at my age we women have heard and seen every pick up technique in the book (or on the internet) and are cynical as hell about them. Okay, you could argue that you are not looking for a world-weary middle aged woman but a young girl who knows no better but cheap casual sex isn't half as much fun as having a long term mate to snog and splosh with. And you won't find one of those with 'pick up techniques'.

Okay back to watching topless men with muscular brown chests painting walls - very, very slowly.

Hayley

[stonecastle]

Most men can go into a club and take a lady home for a night... It isn't hard.

Clubs are amongst the hardest places to pick up women. The Mystery Method was designed mostly for club environments. Personally I prefer daygame as the pick up artist community calls it. As womens' guard is usually down during the day and they don't realise that men who chat to them are trying to pick them up.

By the way if you don't believe that pick up techniques work really well then watch this preview for an American Tv show called The Pick Up Artist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6i_i3JeDIE

[andy250]

Well its been an intersting thread. Though I dont think Stonecastle is going to take on anybodys advice no matter how genuine, people are on this board. Stonecastle if you wont listen to other people, your going to be stuck where you are for a long time. You can read a book as much as you like, it not the real world.

regards

Andy