tonights fantasy !

[Etonman]

1)Before you go out on the pull dress well and shower get a good hair cut polish your shoes etc. Also remember you should be prepared to pull at all times as you could spot a beautiful girl at the local bus stop or in the street.

2)Never approach the target head on always approach at an angle and leave a gap so as not to invade their space. And hold and maintain eye contact during the approach and interaction. Also aproach within three seconds of seeing her so it doesn't looking like you are staking her out.

3)If there are two or more girls open her friends first. Once you have befriended her friends its much easier to befriend her.

4)Use false time contraints and indirect openers such as: "Excuse me I am just on my way to meet some friends and can't stay long but I just need a quick female opinion on something..........." Then when you get your answer quickly change the subject and keep her talking.

5)When in conversation with a woman don't lean in, gesture with your arms and touch her lightly on the arm or back at key emotional points in the conversation such as when you mention something dramatic ie "and it was awsome" gentle touch.

6)Don't ask lots of questions one after the other instead ask just a few and try to expand on them. Try to find a common connection between you and the woman.

7)Break rapport during the interaction ie disagree with her on one or two points to not make it look like you are sucking up to her just to get off with her. Also don't compliment her on her looks. Ask her to tell you something she has achieved then compliment her on that. ie get her to qualify herself to you.

Look for indicators of interest from her such as whether see holds eye contact with you for long periods whether she squeezes your hand when you offer to shake hers.

9)At the end of the interaction don't ask for her phone number say something like; "it was really nice talking to you I would like to see you again sometime in the future what is the best way of getting in touch with you". Or suggest you both go somewhere else for a drink or to do something together ie go on an instant date. Then exchange contact details at the end of that.

10)Direct approaches. Sometimes it is not possible to do long indirect approaches as there is just not the time ie you suddenly spot a really hot girl in the street walking in the opposite direction to you. In that case you must move fast and because approaching is better that not approaching even if your chances of getting her are extremely low make an approach like this:

Walk after her then walk slightly infront turn and say something like; "Excuse me, I know this seems a bit random but I was just on my way somewhere to meet some friends when I spotted you back there and thought you were so nice and cute that I just had to come and speak to you or else I would be kicking myself all day." This has a very low success rate but is better than ignoring a really hot girl. If she is doing something like window shopping a situational pre-opener can be used first before going direct which increases the chances of success slightly.

None of that crap wud work wiv me

Cede xxx

ROFL

(Apologies to Stonehouse, but when I read that reply, I laughed so much that I had to dry my eyes...thanks for cheering me up, Cede.)

[snake]

OMFG

ae you for real stonecastle?

my simple 'rule' is...

be yourself... if you're with the right girl she'll dig you...

[Etonman]

OMFG

ae you for real stonecastle?

my simple 'rule' is...

be yourself... if you're with the right girl she'll dig you...

A good "rule", snakescotland......

I've been told by women that they don't want the smart-arse pick-up artists (and that they can spot them a mile away!).
As snakescotland says, "be yourself", keep presentable and tidy, treat women with respect and be genuinely interested in them as a person, and in their interests and concerns.

[BillShipton]

Whilst I have never been into 'picking up girls' (tho I have a lot of female friends in the pub) I certainly think rules such as cramming ten facts into a conversation should best be considered guidelines not essentials. Experts in 'picking up' are like most gurus - just spouting basic common sense and making money out of it as if they were the only people to have ever thought it. In this case making money out of the insecure, nervous and lonely which is even worse.

I am the ugliest, untidiest, shoddiest dressed person I know, probably one of the rudest and have worked in porn - not exactly women-friendly things - but I am not stuck for female friends cos a) I like women b) I am interested in what THEY have to say not just coming up with trite pick-up bollocks and c) I like to share a joke with them and not laugh AT them. Of course even generalising about 'women' in this way is wrong (as it would be about men), but I also think a bit of realism helps. No amount of grooming (or approaching them from the side) is going to turn me in Brad Pitt, so just be honest, self deprecating and modest - and don't play stupid games. Most women can see those coming a bloody mile off. And if they can't, they are too naive to be exploited.

But perhaps I'm wrong...

PS I speak as somebody who learned this very late in life (about 25 years late!). I spent most of it sitting in the corner of pubs convinced everyone (especially women) outside of work hated me. In recent years though I have realised that if you are interested in other people they are often interested in you. Of course, I can still believe people hate me but not all of them all of the time.

[muckypup]

This is a great thread, thanks for being so entertaining stonecastle.

I've never heard of the website you mentioned so I visited to see what LSS stands for. Who would have know there was a London Seduction Society? And run by "The Megamale, Spoons, Fistboy & Adrian" too

Are you sure Fistboy is after girls?

[andy250]

Oh drat!!! I was going to use all the Stonecastle tips next time I see Cedes!!!! drat, it would not work..............

I just go as myself, though I have learnt some women dont mind talking about the sets and having a go, though a friend of mine call Alana, does not like talking about it. So I guess I wont ask her to do a session then..........

I normally just chat about everyday things really.

regards

Andy

[anitra]

I'd like to see that!

[BillShipton]

I've never heard of the website you mentioned so I visited to see what LSS stands for. Who would have know there was a London Seduction Society? And run by "The Megamale, Spoons, Fistboy & Adrian" too

Would that be eminent social psychologist Prof Edmund Fistboy phd (Cantab)? I read his piece in The Lancet last week entitled, "The Pre-Menapausal Woman and the Role of Lynx Aftershave in Getting Your Leg Over It". Very enlightening. I believe Spoons is his whitecoated assistant who models himself very much on Beaker in The Muppet Show.

[Bubblegum]

This thread is comedy gold.

Number one pulling tip: Ignore "pulling tips" unless you want to sound like a stereotype.

Number two pulling tip: Be yourself.

Number three pulling tip: Let people put your hair in pigtails if they want to. Hey, it worked for me.

[stonecastle]

I've been told by women that they don't want the smart-arse pick-up artists (and that they can spot them a mile away!).
As snakescotland says, "be yourself", keep presentable and tidy, treat women with respect and be genuinely interested in them as a person, and in their interests and concerns.

That is rubbish because most women can never spot a good pick up artist. A pick up artists knows what are the attraction triggers in women and how to trigger them. Such as showing leadership and ambition. Preselection ie being seen in the company of women and social proof ie being seen as someone who is popular with others.

Guys who are top pick up artists like Neil Strauss, Erik Von Markovik(mystery) Richard La Ruina and Adam Lyons get laid an awful lot so they know what they are talking about.

Advice like "just be yourself" from people from outside the pick up community is useless. You need specific information about what to do at each stage of an interaction with women.

Also remember that there are many different styles in the pick up movement. Some styles rely mostly on tricks and canned routines while others use a natural style. Watch this.

[muckypup]

I think what you are all forgetting is that these people are "artists"! They arent like us normal folk. They know all the tricks of the trade and the ways to manipulate people. They can also manipulate stupid people into buying books that tell you how to do all this as well!

[stonecastle]

I think what you are all forgetting is that these people are "artists"! They arent like us normal folk. They know all the tricks of the trade and the ways to manipulate people. They can also manipulate stupid people into buying books that tell you how to do all this as well!

That is wrong they are ordinary folk!Watch this about three less than ordinary guys being turned into pick up artists. Many of the top pick up artists in the world today were almost useless with women before they took up studying how to improve at picking up women.

[Etonman]

I've been told by women that they don't want the smart-arse pick-up artists (and that they can spot them a mile away!).
As snakescotland says, "be yourself", keep presentable and tidy, treat women with respect and be genuinely interested in them as a person, and in their interests and concerns.

That is rubbish because most women can never spot a good pick up artist. A pick up artists knows what are the attraction triggers in women and how to trigger them. Such as showing leadership and ambition. Preselection ie being seen in the company of women and social proof ie being seen as someone who is popular with others.

Guys who are top pick up artists like Neil Strauss, Erik Von Markovik(mystery) Richard La Ruina and Adam Lyons get laid an awful lot so they know what they are talking about.

Advice like "just be yourself" from people from outside the pick up community is useless. You need specific information about what to do at each stage of an interaction with women.

Also remember that there are many different styles in the pick up movement. Some styles rely mostly on tricks and canned routines while others use a natural style. Watch this.

This thread gets better and better.

The system of "being yourself" works....simple, costs nothing, and doesn't need any acting or training. I'm an ordinary guy ( certainly no "oil-painting") but, like Bill and others here, have lots of great women friends.

Stonecastle is "an expert on pick up arts though and can explain pick up in great detail" but says "No I haven't picked up any women yet".

I rest my case.

[stockingman]

God i so wondered where i was going wrong with women now its all laid out for me in black and white ill be playing the field now all thanks to our erstwhile resident STUD ha ha

[DecadentDoll]

Sorry i'm late, i was washing my grandma....

Genuinely laughing my ass off at this thread, particularly Cede's musings and Bill's thoughts on Fistboy.

Of course there are useful ways in which to "pick up" women, but it all depends what you are looking for. Do you really want a woman who would fall for all that shit?

The men who manage to bewitch me are the ones who entertain my craziness, those who make me laugh and those who don't adopt the "i'm talking to a woman so i best modify myself" persona... my best male friends are the one's i talk openly and honestly with, no whistles and bells.

trying to "snare" someone is completely different though, you will have to add all the clever trickery and top ten hints.... but you're kidding yourself ultimately and sad sad sad.

Dolly

xxx

p.s. looks can be important to the shallow among us, my sister recently said "dont you wish bill bailey was a hot guy?" my reply was that he is...yes he may look like "an egg with a shower curtain coming down the back" but i'd well have him!