SAVE OUR HAYLEY!!

[mhalver]

There is no reason why Haley would never turn up to at least one Wam event...

I think that Bill pretty well explained that.

[mistress cane]

Dont leave Hayley, who would the Angels idolize if you are gone? We go through bullying all the time on our forum and its not fun, gets me down so much that i tend to not join in threads for a week at a time while nursing my hurt feelings and its just not worth it as a good friend on Splosh has taught me (cup of tea soon my friend) ignore them and laugh it of cos we can see that you have literally thousands of friends who support what you do!

Love the Angels

www.angelsofdestruction.com

[easy_as_]

Bill and DD cant you just delete his posts coz he's gettin the reaction he obviously craves and people are gettting annoyed, me included, he must be gettin off on this probs a 16 yr old kid with a hard on!

I am not sure that will work.

You won't sweep it under the carpet that easily and the trouble in deleting posts is that it has no other result than adding fuel to the fire.

Hayley, sorry to say, but you'll just have to tough it out .
Still, imagine the satisfaction by proving the doubters wrong ! Keep your chin up !




As for calling people wankstains and criticsing a persons spelling or suggesting they have no friends or asserting other unknowns as fact, is equally as damaging as it is wrong and ignorant.

Personal attacks rarely win arguments/discussions effectively and as it was said, he only voiced an opinion based on what has been talked about from time to time. Surely it is the content of his post you should be more concerned about ?


Even if you are annoyed, surely a reasoned, cool response is needed rather than this degenerating into a slanging match. Telling someone to fuck off is less likely to get them or others to actually fuck off !

Anyone who disagrees with the above, well, you know what can do and where to poke it to boot !!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL !

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Woofwoof]

I am not sure that will work.

You won't sweep it under the carpet that easily and the trouble in deleting posts is that it has no other result than adding fuel to the fire.

I wouldn't agree with deleting everything, but leaving it here, locking the threads off and banning a few IP ranges wouldn't go astray, I reckon. It seems obvious from this thread and this gentleman's post history that someone's out to cause trouble.

There are plenty of well-known people in the community who've posted on this thread, and elsewhere, claiming to know Hayley. That should be good enough for the rest of us.

Hayley, please don't let this knob-head get you down. There are too few of us in the world as it is.

[BillShipton]

I agree that the insulting should stop. As for Hayley's lifestory I have already been through that and am not going to do it again. She has never been just a fantasy figure created by me as the few people who have met her can testify. She has appeared in two videos, several print sets, a few private pictures etc before deciding to give up appearing for many reasons. It was certainly not one session! Oh and I don't write as Hayley cos I don't have access to her ID. In fact, cos she is the admin and I am a mere mod, she can do stuff I can't - like ban people.

I am sorry but I am not going to make Hayley or any other member of this forum pose for pictures with newspapers, do voice links or anything else like that. For fucks sake, it's only a forum not a bloody criminal court case. Perhaps I should make everyone else on the forum do the same with every post to satisfy the conspirators they are all genuine.

Since the vast majority seem perfectly happy with Hayley being here doing what she does, I would suggest that the conspirators live with it. You can continue to think she is fictional if you like - that is your perogative - but don't voice it here as it obviously upsets people including the lady herself. And don't lie or get your facts wrong. To be honest I can't see the point of going to somewhere to deliberately voice the opposite opinion. Do atheists go to churches every Sunday to shout "It's all bollocks!" and expect people not to get angry. Would David Irving be welcome at Belsen, I don't think so. You are wrong, and one day we might provide what you regard as proof - but only if we want to, not because we are forced into it.

So, this is what I am suggesting. There are lots of things on this forum and elsewhere I don't really believe but I don't immediately post "That's not real custard" or "You didn't do that last night - I want to see a newspaper". It's meant to be fun, entertaining and sexy and that's all that matters. If you don't like it, go away, don't expect it to change when the majority clearly are happy.

I for one hope this will be the end of the matter. I really can't believe it all blew up over one post but still...

As for the lady herself...she is waiting for all this to calm down so I suggest we do.

Bill

[wannabegunged]

well... I dont usually post in threads like this.. but the whole topic of this has really got my goat!!...

Firstly I think people need to appreciate the work that Bill, Hayley and the rest of the Splosh team put into what is to the huge majority of us.. a past time, a mere intrest... Were it nor for the likes of Bill and Hayley who go to the enth degree to satisfy our viewing needs and requirements I think the world os wamming would be a far emptier and less developed area than it is now.

The suggestion that Hayley is the biggest pile of rubbish I have ever heard. Now excuse me as I have just scan read the 4 pages so far, but did i even see someone suggesting that Hayley was Bill dressing up!!!!!!!!! Good grief!!....... Now, I know that Hayley is not a figment of Bills imagination, but, then again, even is she was... who cares... is the large proportion of this intrest we make into a fetish based on imagination, so here the idiots are taking the piss out of something they reguarly practice themselves.. feel small people, feel very small.

I for one take my hat off and thank both Bill and Hayley for their hard work over the years. I started as a young fan of Splosh, and although now only 25 have had many mags and vids sent through, finding the early years a little strange, but somehow finding comfort in the fact that Bill and Hayley are regular people into the same as we all are.

What I'm trying to say is give em a break, this life is hard enough without bringing tension into the one area of peoples lives where they feel like they can switch off and be who they want to be and not have to answer to anyone.

Enjoy all, and happy sploshing...

Wannabegunged..

[matt2matt2002]

'I for one take my hat off and thank both Bill and Hayley for their hard work over the years. I started as a young fan of Splosh, and although now only 25 have had many mags and vids sent through, finding the early years a little strange, but somehow finding comfort in the fact that Bill and Hayley are regular people into the same as we all are.'

I could have written that!

You put into words what I had been thinking and feeling.

Many thanks

Matt

[LondonMeet]

I look forward to snogging ALL of you at a meet sometime in the future. That should fuck up the attendence at the next one!

You can't just go round snogging everyone willy-nilly !

Or Billy-Nilly in your case !

If anyone would like to snog Bill at the next meet he attends then please indicate your preference on the accompanying thread and do please form an orderly queue in the pub on the evening itself !



Anyhoo, it will be good to see you at another meet again Bill. It's been a while since you met all the boys and girls.

Smiley & easy_as_ . . . .

[pieclown]

WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have read the 4 pages and been here ranting and raging ( and laughing) over a person

I agree that the insulting should stop.


Bill

up setting Hayley. I will keep my American/Yank/John Wayne temper in check. You dont what to see a clown get redder then his nose.

1st Clown Julie, thanks for starting this love fest for a person who needs it. I have talked to a only a few people, but know that the woman on these groups are treated in a bad way in personal messages. Some women hide themselves from people that just what a free one. There I guys that will never get enough. I had a talk with a USA producer and he had the model next to him, as guys would PM her with not acceptable comments.

Hayley, please take some deep breathes and relax, there are more of us that love and enjoy your work then those others. Please do not leave.

To the other ladies here, allow me to say THANK YOU for your posting.

And to all Merry Christmas and Happy "messy" New year


PS. forgive misspelled word, I speak American not English -- haha

PPS (Joke) Hey I think we got this wrong. Bill is fake, and Hayley made him up. {This has been a joke to make someone smile}

[DecadentDoll]

I feel I should simply lock the thread.....

None of you have any right to demand proof from Hayley. You are valued members of the forum but this is a joke.

Bill said it best himself...I feel no need to further this madness.

I have noted well the people defending Scott34c. Ive had conversations with certain forum members about this subject and how disgusted I am at it.....

*sigh*

I adore you Hayley, you made my 21st birthday the most memorable ever...when you asked if i'd like to be on the site.

I won't delete the posts made by Scott34c or pieguy as I dont feel any of us have anything to hide. The truth will always out in these cases.

I also will not insult Scott34c in a derogatory manner, but saying he is brave for posting what he has is , excuse my language, a FUCKING joke.

Doll xx

[Jonny]

nah this is a fucking joke....

Why is Peeterman's Artios like making love in a canoe.....

Both fucking close to water

[LiberatorWAM]

Hello everyone!

First of all I just want to say that as a moderator on the UMD I can check IP addresses. Bill and Hayley both use AOL but have different accounts / e-mails and different IP's...

...now the reason why I am here posting...is to address Scott34C.

I banned you from the UMD on the 23rd June 2005:-

Reason

Deleted sploshscott35 with email address scott34c@yahoo.co.uk Notes are: Part of the scam.

You were the one that was part of that "Caroline Scott" scam where you offered non-existent WAM sessions.

As far as I am concerned you will never be welcomed on the UMD and if I was the owner / moderator of the Splosh Forum I would ban you very very quickly.

[splat182002]

Well, Dolly, there's your answer. Libby has the proof. All you have to do is ban the prat.

[i_like_pie]

I'd just like to add my voice to this growing list of people supporting hayley and hopefully when she's finished bouncing off the walls and calms down a bit she will realise most of us really do value her efforts and contributions to the WAM community, also i always enjoy reading her playful flirty replies and a big thanks to julie for starting this thread, i've always been a huge fan and your site was how i found out about the world of WAM

[morepies]

Bill Shipton's been around the messy fun scene for decades - I've had dealings with him since the late 1980s and never had any reason to think he's anything other than straight-up.

The Scott guy, on the other hand, is a known trouble maker who was associated with a scam attempt on the umd.

My feeling is that this thread should be locked down, as Dolly suggests, & Scott terminated on the forum, as Liberatorwam suggests.

MPP