Anyone else find this sort of thing hot?

[Sidi]

Here is the story behind Trash and Revulsion.

Trash came first and Emma-Louise knew more or less what I was planning. In that case the negotiation was fairly straightforward and minimal - I told her she would be treated like garbage, made to play in the garbage and have it shoved in her mouth, and she agreed so long as I was careful not to make her ill.

Revulsion was shot later in response to requests in our members forum to do a more extreme version of trash. Crystel volunteered in the forum and said she would do *anything* in terms of degradation. The members requested what they wanted to see so she had a good idea what was coming, but could not back out as she had promised the members to take whatever they wanted. I had to drop a few of the more extreme ideas, either because our credit card biller would not let us publish it (eating shit) or because there was a very real chance it might kill her (being made to drink water from a sewer outlet), but most of it got left in. So the answer I guess was that she knew there *might* be worms and maggots etc., but didn't know for sure what was coming.

The garbage used in Trash was selected, and relatively fresh. It *was* real garbage (left over take-aways etc.), but it was kept to one side for the movie to make sure there was nothing that would harm her. Emma-Louise did not know this however - by the time she saw it, it was just a rubbish bag.

The garbage used in Revulsion was very real indeed. In fact it was fucking gross - one of our videographers resigned after the shoot because *she* refused to be put through anything like that again. It was a genuine rubbish bag, that had been 'spiked' with stuff to make it even more gross intentionally (eggs and milk I had left in the sun for days, the used condom etc.),and then the whole bag was left out in the sun for about a week to encourage it to fester even more. The foodstuffs in there were genuinely mouldy and it stank to high heaven.

Astonishingly, Crystel did not suffer any ill effects - she must have a cast iron stomach - she was not even sick. We had antibiotics, and various medicines standing by for the next few days, but she was fine - her only comment was that it had made her hair really nice and shiny LOL

She did spend an hour in the shower afterwards, and *still* stank like hell after it though.

It was hard to break Crystel. The only thing in Revulsion that she seriously struggled with was the lumpy sour milk. I think Revulsion was only our third movie together though - I managed to break her down and get her crying in subsequent movies, but she was a tough cookie for sure. Even then when I finally got to her it was through pain and fear - no degradation was too low for her really.

[BillShipton]

We have worked with a number of models who have appeared on Shadow Slaves and it has always amused them when I tell them off for pretending to be distressed! Apparently that market likes tears and anguish. I don't. Having said that, smiles are inappropriate so we have hit on a sort of 'pantomime distress' look (more cartoon than real) which we think works. Actually I think the cartoon version is quite sexy whilst tears do nothing for me at all. Humiliation-lite?

[Sidi]

Bill,
You have hit on the perfect combination that people appreciate, that's why many come and many go, but you have been around all this time.

And for that, we thank you

[matt2matt2002]

Bill,
You have hit on the perfect combination that people appreciate, that's why many come and many go, but you have been around all this time.

And for that, we thank you

I'll second that.

[andy250]

Well we're 2/3rds of the way there now. We have quite a few models who are up for it, some regaulars that you have already, plus new models. So I just need to shoot the first scene sometime in July. I'll keep everybody posted. I'm hoping the first lady will be Paige, see attached pic.

regards

Andy and the team.

[mr angry]

With Bill on this. I like the humiliation aspect of a girl being sploshed but its got to be slightly OTT pantomime acting which I also find quite sexy. The idea of really upsetting a girl I dont like, she has to enjoy it.

Basically, splosh is a mild and harmless form of humiliation. The girls make up, hair, clothes etc are ruined and trashed but in a fun sort of way and theres nothing nasty about it. Not over keen on the idea of actual garbage being used and the ashtray scenario does nothing for me

Anyway, each to his/her own

PS I like the looks of Paige

[andy250]

Well we've got the line up for the first set sorted, its Paige (as above) and a lady called Eden May, I just need to work out, wether its going to be silly, with slight humilation in or wether its going to be a proper scene with verbal humilation, etc etc in.

I've got a feeling its going to be a mix of both......

I can tell you one thing, it will be extremely messy. The outfits wont survive thats for
certain.

regards

Andy and the team.

[Roger]

I haven't posted on here for some time, but felt I wanted to comment on this thread. The humiliation aspect of WAM has always been a big factor for me and to be honest at times I have found the stuff around Splosh to be a bit light weight. However I did find these scenes to be a bit much, some of it was a turn on but seeing the girls being forced to eat the cig ash, rotten food, etc was too much.

My ideal scenario is to see a woman stripped, tied and gunged in a situation such as a sports team initiation, charity gunging, etc. I like it when the woman has not asked to be WAM'd but I don't want to see somebody upset, crying etc. Best reaction is when the "victim" accepts it with a sort of resigned can;t do anything about it look.

Looking forward to seeing Andy's shoot.

[jen77]

i think you seem to think we all like to be in a carry on movie for your entertainment. if done well with good control - and not eating stubs and ash, this can be very erotic for everyone. including those receiving the treatment

[jen77]

i am interested. No slapstick humour - just control and erotica with a girl in a smart suit.

[andy250]

I have to agree with Roger, as his comments pretty much sum up how I feel. Though all power to ShadowSlaves as a humilation its top notch stuff and pretty much has everything that somebody would want.

I'm thinking of doing something similar to one scene we shot a while back with Candie and India, though making it a bit more full on.

regards

Andy and the team.

[jen77]

This subject is just so erotic, i am drawn to keep the discussion going.

[andy250]

Pm me, as you have not been on here since mid March, with no answers or explanation.!!.

I dont know if your for real or if your somebody, pretending to be somevbody there not.

I get a lot of it as producer...

I have asked the site owner and the admin team but to no reply!!!!

There are now multipul accounts for your person!!!!

What else am I meant to think???

Trip to steele city maybe???? Jenni

Plus you keep removing pics????? after posting..... Man or Woman, the mind boggles!!!!!!

I also notice you have removed your earlier reply saying pm me? Guess your a guy pretending to be a woman??? Right or Wrong?????



regards

Andy.

[BillShipton]

Whether Jen77 is a man, woman, CD, TV or TS has been irrelevant to his/her posts here.

[andy250]

Whether Jen77 is a man, woman, CD, TV or TS has been irrelevant to his/her posts here.

Not what I was stating, at all if you read above! I'm asking if its ok to have multipul accounts for one person who may well be the same person.

If thats the case eveybody might as well make up multipul accounts, making the board impossible to moderate.???

Andy.