Natrosol Questions

[Deano2099]

Hi all,
Got some Natrosol powder the other day, had a few questions about it. Namely, is it safe to wash down the drain afterwards without causing any blockages if we're using it in the bath? And are there any issues with using it in sex? Can it be harmful if it gets places and can it cause any problems with latex condoms?

Cheers all.

[BillShipton]

Completely harmless as far as I know and I have never had any problems washing it away as it is water soluble so just rinses away. It's only snag is that it doesn't taste great!

[Miss T]

Hi all,
........ And are there any issues with using it in sex? Can it be harmful if it gets places ......

Cheers all.

Never heard of any problems with it at all but as Bill says doesn't taste brill however .... as for putting it down the drain.... ummm depends how much and how often I expect

[BillShipton]

One thing you should note (puts my health and safety hat on), Natrasol is VERY slippery. On a shiny surface like a bath it can be dangerous when you stand up (I'm guessing there won't be much of that!) so be careful...but have fun.

Bill

[dunktankbabes]

As Bill says, it is perfectly safe, in fact it is used in the production of toothpaste and is "food grade" if you bought it from ourselves. Not sure About the sex side of it alltho it is fun !!!!
Washing down the drain should be fine and not cause any blockages as it does dilute easily with more water.
The colouring we use is also non toxic as it is aimed at kids ( and big kids lol)

Have some on ebay at the moment if anyone wants any or can bring some to the London Meet on Thursday,


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Coloured-Gunge-Wa ... 240%3A1318

[Deano2099]

Thanks all!

[noise]

Ever eaten a burger? Yes? You have eaten Natrosol... It is Methyl Cellulose (Sometimes the words are run together). Ever used KY Jelly? Then you have already been sexually involved with it!

(Puts his science hat on...)

*coughcough* *ahem*

Chemically... methyl cellulose is a methyl - ether of cellulose, arising from substituting the hydrogen atoms of some of cellulose's hydroxyl groups -OH with methyl groups -CH3, forming -OCH3 groups.

Got that? I will be asking questions at the end.

Different kinds of methyl cellulose can be prepared depending on the number of hydroxyl groups substituted.

Cellulose is a polymer consisting of numerous linked glucose molecules, each of which exposes three hydroxyl groups. The Degree of Substitution (DS) of a given form of methyl cellulose is defined as the average number of substituted hydroxyl groups per glucose.

Basically though, it's an organic compound with the formula (C6H10O5)n, a polysaccharide consisting of a linear chain of several hundred to over ten thousand β(1→4) linked D-glucose units.

Yes at the back, just like wood pulp and tree sap.

The theoretical maximum is thus a DS of 3.0, however more typical values are 1.3 - 2.6. We are looking at nearer the top end for a decent slime. GungeGirls.com slime is engineered to a D.S of 2.1.

Different methyl cellulose preparations can also differ in the average length of their polymer backbones. Which is frankly fuck all use to anyone unless you know what a Polymer is. Even if you did, you probably didn't know they had a backbone.

Methyl cellulose does not occur naturally and is synthetically produced by heating cellulose with caustic solution (e.g. a solution of sodium hydroxide - AKA Caustic Soda).

What we are looking for is the fact It simply dissolves in cold water. Higher DS-values result in lower solubility... because the polar hydroxyl groups are masked. The chemical is not soluble in hot water... which has the paradoxical effect that heating a saturated solution of methyl cellulose will turn it solid, because methyl cellulose will precipitate out. The temperature at which this occurs depends on DS-value, with higher DS-values giving lower precipitation temperatures.



Preparing a solution of methyl cellulose with cold water is difficult however: as the powder comes into contact with water, a gluey layer forms around it, and the inside remains dry. A better way is to first mix the powder with hot water, so that the methyl cellulose particles are well dispersed in the water, and cool down this dispersion while stirring, leading to the dissolution of those particles. So mix it up for dumping over the person of your choice in tepid water, and leave it for a few hours to set into a nice thickness and consistency.

Methyl cellulose is often added to hair shampoos, tooth pastes and liquid soaps, to generate their characteristic thick consistency. This is also done for foods, for example sauces, ice cream, milkshakes or croquette or as a clumping agent for burgers. Methyl cellulose is also an important emulsifier, preventing the separation of two mixed liquids.

The E number of methyl cellulose as food additive is E461.

I will pause while you go check the Heinz cans in the food cupboard.

Back? Ok...

When eaten, methyl cellulose is not absorbed by the intestines but passes through the digestive tract undisturbed. It attracts large amounts of water into the colon... you really don't want me to finish that sentence unless you suffer constipation.

Methyl cellulose also finds a major application as a performance additive in construction materials. It is added to mortar dry mixes to improve the mortar's properties such as workability, open and adjustment time, water retention, viscosity, adhesion to surfaces etc. Construction grade methyl cellulose is to not to be identified with food and pharmaceutical grade methyl cellulose and hydroxypropyl methyl cellulose, since it may be cross-linked with glyoxal for easy dispersion in water.

Yes, your house is held together by slime.

The construction materials can be cement based or gypsum based. Notable examples of dry mixture mortars which utilize methyl cellulose include: tile adhesives, EIFS, insulating plasters, hand-trowed and machine sprayed plaster, stucco, self-leveling flooring, extruded cement panels, skim coats, joint & crack fillers, and tile grouts. Typical usage is about 0.2% ~ 0.5% of total dry powder weight for dry mixture

Yes, your bathroom is held together by slime...

The slimy, gooey appearance of an appropriate preparation of methyl cellulose with water, in addition to its non-toxic, non-allergenic, and edible properties, makes it popular for use in special effects for motion pictures and television wherever vile slimes must be simulated. In the film Ghostbusters, for example, the gooey substance that supernatural entities used to “slime” the Ghostbusters was mostly a thick water solution of methyl cellulose. Also it has more practical special effects uses - the final scene in the last Star Wars feature where Anakin Skywalker and Ben Kenobi fought over Lava contained Methyl Cellulose. The lava was slime lit from underneath with orange lamps.


SoooOOOooo... in answer to your question, it is non-toxic, safe for sex, and the best way to stop it clogging anything up is to rinse it down with COLD water. Counter intuitive i know, but science always knows best...

[stonecastle]

The most common thing natrosol is used for is to thicken sauces like tomato ketchup and brown sauce that are used with meals.

[noise]

Oh. Sorry. Did i miss that?