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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 10:56
by Phantom
What happened to Messy Alan's link to youtube videos of the food fight scene from WSM'll Fix It.

Another Splosh Forum vanishing thread?

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 11:34
by BillShipton
We have taken down the link cos Messy Alan has taken down the clip.

This was agreed because posting the complete video of a scene you happen to have filmed from the audience (if the material is copyright and still available for sale which this is) is clearly unfair on the person who paid for its production (Mike Ellison of WSM). Basically it's bootlegging. Alan has agreed that this is fair.

Clips like this will, of course, surface everywhere on Youtube and its various equivalents but as we said at the outset whilst we on the forum are happy to allow stills or even brief clips from old material (even scenes that are still available like this one) with proper accreditation which obviously we can do, as colleagues of Mike Ellison we cannot advertise a link to a free bootleg of one of his scenes without any accreditation.

I know that this may annoy freebee junkies but I am sure the material will continue to be posted on share sites whether we link to it or not.

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 11:47
by Phantom
I see your point about it being a bootleg.

It's a shame for those of us who've already paid for Mike Ellison's version of the scene, since messy Alan's version adds a whole new camera angle and captures lots of extra bits that Mike missed in the chaos of filming, or chose to edit out.

Phantom

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 11:58
by BillShipton
I agree it is a shame for connoisseurs who might like to see a different side to a scene if they have already bought it. Perhaps you could come to some arrangement with Alan for a copy of it somehow. But I hope you understand that we can't advertise it for the reasons I gave.

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 12:02
by Phantom
Yeah I do understand that - and have already considered contacting Alan privately for a copy for my own private use. Maybe in exchange for some sets of my private pics from Splosh studios or something.

Boat race mistery

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 12:43
by matt2matt2002
Very sensible views expressed here

Here's the silly question...
please name the young ladies in the above picture.

I know their faces etc. - but the names escape me.

Thanx folks.

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 12:50
by Phantom
L to R: Lorraine, Rachel, Melanie, Mirrel, Debbie (and Carol just outside the pic frame)

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 14:21
by BillShipton
Phantom wrote: ...messy Alan's version adds a whole new camera angle and captures lots of extra bits that Mike missed in the chaos of filming, or chose to edit out.

Phantom


That is the problem with four, five, six girl scenes. It is impossible to capture everything unless the action is carefully choreographed which in turn spoils the spontaneity. From a purely personal point of view, that is why I find scenes with this many girls in frustrating. You either shoot it wide to capture everything and can't concentrate on four things happening at once, or close in and miss out some action completely. Consequently I have never shot multi-girl scenes. It's not just meanness. honest.

Those were the days my friend

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 14:47
by matt2matt2002
Thanx Phantom

The good ol' days indeed

Do you think that in 10 years time, folk will look back at 'now' and think they were good ol' days?

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 15:03
by Phantom
I'm certain of it, Matt2matt.

I think the early days of Splosh and WSM are remembered as a kind of 'Golden Age' of British WAM ... because they were amongst the first, and they preceded the internet by quite a long way. Pie-oneers, if you will! Nuggets of gold for those early prospectors willing to seek them out.

The late 90s was like another golden period ... no longer did we have to scan adult magazines, wait for Splosh magazine to arrive ... suddenly the internet had loads of messy material, and we could also make contact with lots of other messy fetishists thru UMD and the forums (like this one) that followed.

One aspect of the internet era I haven't been so keen on is the plethora of bandwagon-wam ... sites run by people who aren't really into the fetish ... just into making money from the fetishists.

You know the kind - "oh ho ... I can make a pretty penny from these weirdos by getting my model to dab some blobs of whipped cream on her nipples"

But - yeah ... I do think for sure that these days we're in now are destined to become 'the good ole days', when we fondly remember such beauties as Mercedes, Sweet Sophie, Maddy etc.

Oh - and I also think the meet-ups are another wonderful dimension of the WAM scene in Britain right now. I've been lucky enough to attend 3 now, and had a really unforgettable night each time. So so great to meet face to face with other 'weirdos'.

What's your take on it all, Matt?

Phantom

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 15:29
by BillShipton
I like to think that the Golden Age of WAM or Sploshing is always the next one.

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 15:57
by Phantom
Nice thought.

I'm a collector of comic books, and comic book nerds tend to categorise the various eras of comics into ages.

I think the same applies to Splosh/WAM ... some of us older people can remember distinct trends, eras, events that have shaped the history of the fetish.

Just think - if the golden age of WAM is yet to come!

Misty optics

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 19:21
by matt2matt2002
BillShipton wrote:I like to think that the Golden Age of WAM or Sploshing is always the next one.


Nice one Bill - always the optimist.
I'd rather be a misty optic myself!

The late Harold Wilson called himself and optimist who always carried an umbrella.
Just thought I'd share that one.

I guess my golden age moment is always the one when I 'discover' the era or event.

I will always remember being put in touch with Bill through that nice chap in Wales (forget his name now). My whole world changed - honest.
I was not alone and there was another nut case like me out there.
And better than that - he had the balls to put his dosh and time on the line to produce a mag. dedicated to my fantasies.

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2008, 00:27
by BillShipton
I am guessing the nice chap in Wales was Roger Carpenter. Alive, well and still working (albeit not on messy stuff so much). He helped us launch the mag so he owe him a lot.

Re: Misty optics

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2008, 12:05
by Hayley
matt2matt2002 wrote:
BillShipton wrote:I like to think that the Golden Age of WAM or Sploshing is always the next one.


Nice one Bill - always the optimist.

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God, Bill being optimistic! They must have changed his medication!

Thanks for the nice comments tho, Matt