I'm planning a Wet and Messy Event!!!!!
by Guest » 03 Jun 2006, 16:17
Hello again
First of all thanks to all of you who sent good wishes to my Mum. I passed them onto her (in the most discreet way I could) and she is now at home with my Dad, probably bickering about where the teabags should go (ie back to normal).
On the subject of WAM meets, Splosh! Days, Aquantics weekends etc...
There is a surprising long history of these.
They started in 1989 when Roger from Aquantics held a get-together for six of his best customers in a friend's hotel in Tenby. In some ways this was the perfect set up as the friend (the late Colin Twyford) was a wetlook fan and better still had a room that was about to be decorated which he didn't mind being messed up. Also we were able to take over the whole place. Mike from WSM brought Debbie and Carol and we spent a weekend at the hotel with one 'event' namely watching Mike film Debbie and Carol for WSM. No photos, no participation but the first time I had seen girls getting that messy 'live'. Two months later SPLOSH! was born.
Two years later, Aquantics held another get-together for invited customers and other producers which we filmed for them and is available on vid/DVD as Aquantics 91: The Movie. This time a different hotel was used (Colin being away working abroad) and again we took over the whole place. This event was a much more lavish affair as you can see on the video. We built a huge mud pit in the games room, there was a swimming pool and jacuzzi for wet stuff, and a performance area for slapstick items. However, apart from a few brave souls, the emphasis was very much on professionals shooting whilst the public watched - until the last afternoon. As SPLOSH!'s contribution we organised a game show hosted by Louise and myself called Plastermind (no offence to Wamdrogeny but we were first!) where anyone could take part. Since by that time people had got to know each other for a couple of days, they were happier to do this and I'd like to think they all had a good time. I certainly did. I launched Pretty Clumsy Woman there to great enthusiasm and ended up in a jacuzzi with Miss L'Amour and the late Rob Blaine singing American TV theme songs! Thankfully that isn't on the video!
The idea was repeated two years later with a similar format. Some people were brave enough to organise their own sessions within the weekend (at extra cost) so there was a bit more participation but again a lot was purely socialising and spectating. We did another game show at the end - Karasoake - where people performed their party pieces and got sploshed by the 'judges' and Sammy-Jane played that cruel trick on me that end with me in the mud pit! It was another great weekend for me.
However several problems were already emerging. Firstly, the weekends were very big and difficult to organise. There were two full days of events, often two at a time, not to mention long, long nights of drinking! Secondly not many hotels were happy to be taken over in this way, and the setting up/clearing up was horrendous. And thirdly, because a whole weekend of good food, accommodation and travel was added to the cost of the sessions themselves, it was expensive for the guests. Each person was paying out £300 before travel and booze - and then mainly to watch. However, they were fantastic fun (if exhausting). You really did get to know everyone including the girls and lived in a world where people would disappear to the mudpit with a model, shoot one showering fully clothed in their room or have a personal pie fight then go back to the bar like it was normal everyday behaviour. Nobody ever wanted to leave! However the organisation proved too much for Roger and so these Tenby events stopped.
Next came the purely spectatorial (is that a word?) events in Bath. Organised by David Wilkey, they were really a big film shoot with about ten models which invited guests were allowed to pay to watch. We (SPLOSH!) were rather against this at first as they were expensive and nobody got to join in or even take pics except during breaks in filming. There was also hours and hours of hanging around (as there is on a shoot) which the public paid to endure. But the social side was good and people seemed willing to pay to watch, so we couldn't argue. Also their 'big budget' videos like Desperately Soaking Susan (with the wet wedding scene), The Muckanic (mass water and oil fights), Few Dollops More's 12 girl mud scene and the huge pie fight in A Nightmare on Gunge Street probably wouldn't have been possible any other way. They lasted several years but again succombed to exhaustion...not surprisingly David found organising a huge shoot and a lot of guests impossible.
But as a result of this, we decided to do the opposite namely hold a very cheap one day event where everyone could join in. The Splosh! Days were held at the London studio we used to use. They consisted of one afternoon split into two halves followed by a night in the pub, people having to make their own way home, organise their own accommodation/park bench etc at their own expense. As a result instead of £300, they were about £60, and the second half was all about joining in. Again, a game show format let people take part in an orderly manner (though they would all try to shower at once) with models joining in too. The first half was a photo shoot but people were able to 'direct' to some extent - leading to minor disagreements ("Put the pie in her face." "No, in her tits!" etc), and it gave people a chance to settle in and feel at ease with the surroundings.
We did three events like this of which by far the best was the second. Here the same people from the first came back - but bold enough to take part and have fun. It was very relaxed flirty and funny. Followed, again, by a night in the pub. The third though was a bit of a nightmare. Plenty came, but they were all newcomers and too scared to join in (also some were afraid of being filmed/photographed). As a result I remember Sammy and I having to mess each other up just to keep the action going (it's a tough job but...). Pleasant for me, but not what the event was there for. In the pub after I asked why they didn't join in and a combination of first splosh nerves and fear of filming seemed to be the answer.
Since the Splosh! Days were hard work and non-proftmaking, and now nobody even seemed willing to join in we dropped them and concentrated on private sessions where everyone seemed to go away happy cos they were tailormade to their individual requirements.
Would we do events again?
If the WAM Princess doesn't rush in and copyright the whole idea first, the maybe! The problems are:
1) People who say they'll come and don't
2) People who come but won't join in
3) Trying to organise an event that pleases a huge range of tastes
4) Being prepared to spend a day setting up and clearing up something that may well lose you money
5) Getting the model/customer ratio high enough so everyone feels they get to know each other but doesn't wind up paying a fortune for the privillege.
In short it's a great idea but very difficult to make work and keep everyone happy. So if we did do them, I think we'd try and keep them small with say two models and six sploshers rather than a lavish show with a huge cast that may not have an audience!
Having said all that (and yes, I know I have gone on for ages, but you did ask!) - they are FANTASTIC FUN! The events are a great laugh, the atmosphere informal and entertaining (though people are usually terrified when they arrive) and even if you only come to watch and have a pint you will see things you never thought you ever would - at a reasonable cost. And they keep you in pub anecdotes for years!
Shit, is that the time? Hayley and I have a biker barbecue to go to, so time to change into more slut gear for her and yet another black teeshirt for me!
Sorry to have bored you!
Bill Shipton
Fuck, forgot to log in!!
First of all thanks to all of you who sent good wishes to my Mum. I passed them onto her (in the most discreet way I could) and she is now at home with my Dad, probably bickering about where the teabags should go (ie back to normal).
On the subject of WAM meets, Splosh! Days, Aquantics weekends etc...
There is a surprising long history of these.
They started in 1989 when Roger from Aquantics held a get-together for six of his best customers in a friend's hotel in Tenby. In some ways this was the perfect set up as the friend (the late Colin Twyford) was a wetlook fan and better still had a room that was about to be decorated which he didn't mind being messed up. Also we were able to take over the whole place. Mike from WSM brought Debbie and Carol and we spent a weekend at the hotel with one 'event' namely watching Mike film Debbie and Carol for WSM. No photos, no participation but the first time I had seen girls getting that messy 'live'. Two months later SPLOSH! was born.
Two years later, Aquantics held another get-together for invited customers and other producers which we filmed for them and is available on vid/DVD as Aquantics 91: The Movie. This time a different hotel was used (Colin being away working abroad) and again we took over the whole place. This event was a much more lavish affair as you can see on the video. We built a huge mud pit in the games room, there was a swimming pool and jacuzzi for wet stuff, and a performance area for slapstick items. However, apart from a few brave souls, the emphasis was very much on professionals shooting whilst the public watched - until the last afternoon. As SPLOSH!'s contribution we organised a game show hosted by Louise and myself called Plastermind (no offence to Wamdrogeny but we were first!) where anyone could take part. Since by that time people had got to know each other for a couple of days, they were happier to do this and I'd like to think they all had a good time. I certainly did. I launched Pretty Clumsy Woman there to great enthusiasm and ended up in a jacuzzi with Miss L'Amour and the late Rob Blaine singing American TV theme songs! Thankfully that isn't on the video!
The idea was repeated two years later with a similar format. Some people were brave enough to organise their own sessions within the weekend (at extra cost) so there was a bit more participation but again a lot was purely socialising and spectating. We did another game show at the end - Karasoake - where people performed their party pieces and got sploshed by the 'judges' and Sammy-Jane played that cruel trick on me that end with me in the mud pit! It was another great weekend for me.
However several problems were already emerging. Firstly, the weekends were very big and difficult to organise. There were two full days of events, often two at a time, not to mention long, long nights of drinking! Secondly not many hotels were happy to be taken over in this way, and the setting up/clearing up was horrendous. And thirdly, because a whole weekend of good food, accommodation and travel was added to the cost of the sessions themselves, it was expensive for the guests. Each person was paying out £300 before travel and booze - and then mainly to watch. However, they were fantastic fun (if exhausting). You really did get to know everyone including the girls and lived in a world where people would disappear to the mudpit with a model, shoot one showering fully clothed in their room or have a personal pie fight then go back to the bar like it was normal everyday behaviour. Nobody ever wanted to leave! However the organisation proved too much for Roger and so these Tenby events stopped.
Next came the purely spectatorial (is that a word?) events in Bath. Organised by David Wilkey, they were really a big film shoot with about ten models which invited guests were allowed to pay to watch. We (SPLOSH!) were rather against this at first as they were expensive and nobody got to join in or even take pics except during breaks in filming. There was also hours and hours of hanging around (as there is on a shoot) which the public paid to endure. But the social side was good and people seemed willing to pay to watch, so we couldn't argue. Also their 'big budget' videos like Desperately Soaking Susan (with the wet wedding scene), The Muckanic (mass water and oil fights), Few Dollops More's 12 girl mud scene and the huge pie fight in A Nightmare on Gunge Street probably wouldn't have been possible any other way. They lasted several years but again succombed to exhaustion...not surprisingly David found organising a huge shoot and a lot of guests impossible.
But as a result of this, we decided to do the opposite namely hold a very cheap one day event where everyone could join in. The Splosh! Days were held at the London studio we used to use. They consisted of one afternoon split into two halves followed by a night in the pub, people having to make their own way home, organise their own accommodation/park bench etc at their own expense. As a result instead of £300, they were about £60, and the second half was all about joining in. Again, a game show format let people take part in an orderly manner (though they would all try to shower at once) with models joining in too. The first half was a photo shoot but people were able to 'direct' to some extent - leading to minor disagreements ("Put the pie in her face." "No, in her tits!" etc), and it gave people a chance to settle in and feel at ease with the surroundings.
We did three events like this of which by far the best was the second. Here the same people from the first came back - but bold enough to take part and have fun. It was very relaxed flirty and funny. Followed, again, by a night in the pub. The third though was a bit of a nightmare. Plenty came, but they were all newcomers and too scared to join in (also some were afraid of being filmed/photographed). As a result I remember Sammy and I having to mess each other up just to keep the action going (it's a tough job but...). Pleasant for me, but not what the event was there for. In the pub after I asked why they didn't join in and a combination of first splosh nerves and fear of filming seemed to be the answer.
Since the Splosh! Days were hard work and non-proftmaking, and now nobody even seemed willing to join in we dropped them and concentrated on private sessions where everyone seemed to go away happy cos they were tailormade to their individual requirements.
Would we do events again?
If the WAM Princess doesn't rush in and copyright the whole idea first, the maybe! The problems are:
1) People who say they'll come and don't
2) People who come but won't join in
3) Trying to organise an event that pleases a huge range of tastes
4) Being prepared to spend a day setting up and clearing up something that may well lose you money
5) Getting the model/customer ratio high enough so everyone feels they get to know each other but doesn't wind up paying a fortune for the privillege.
In short it's a great idea but very difficult to make work and keep everyone happy. So if we did do them, I think we'd try and keep them small with say two models and six sploshers rather than a lavish show with a huge cast that may not have an audience!
Having said all that (and yes, I know I have gone on for ages, but you did ask!) - they are FANTASTIC FUN! The events are a great laugh, the atmosphere informal and entertaining (though people are usually terrified when they arrive) and even if you only come to watch and have a pint you will see things you never thought you ever would - at a reasonable cost. And they keep you in pub anecdotes for years!
Shit, is that the time? Hayley and I have a biker barbecue to go to, so time to change into more slut gear for her and yet another black teeshirt for me!
Sorry to have bored you!
Bill Shipton
Fuck, forgot to log in!!
- Guest
Splosh days etc
by andy250 » 03 Jun 2006, 19:50
I have been two of the Splosh day events back in the 90's with Bill and eveyone, everyobdy I met was really up for it, you do really need to split these events into two parts like Bill did, photo shoot for eveybody who wants to take still and video. Then the second part was for anybody who wanted to join in. (Me being the mad one I am decied, twice to do my own shows and really enjoyed doing it, but I love showing off and being in front of a camera.) We have video from 96 wich has become a legend in its own right that has Bill and Karen, Emma follwed by my nutty lot, then it was mess about time with Luna and Louise.
If my memory serves me right people did have to pay about 60 quid for the day which was good value for money for what you got. We use take our own food stuffs down with us. That in itself was mad.
Would I do another session like this deffo, Exept this time my shows are even and better and louder than last time, more people joining in than ever with my private sessions wich is grate news.
The bottom line is this, I am prepared to help Bill put something together if their are enough people who want to do, you are missing out on one of the funniest days you will ever have.
The social side aint bad either, off to the pub with everyone afterwards.
OOHH!!! Just thought I could get Bill and Hayley, to do a guest appearance on Disastermind.
Andy
If my memory serves me right people did have to pay about 60 quid for the day which was good value for money for what you got. We use take our own food stuffs down with us. That in itself was mad.
Would I do another session like this deffo, Exept this time my shows are even and better and louder than last time, more people joining in than ever with my private sessions wich is grate news.
The bottom line is this, I am prepared to help Bill put something together if their are enough people who want to do, you are missing out on one of the funniest days you will ever have.
The social side aint bad either, off to the pub with everyone afterwards.
OOHH!!! Just thought I could get Bill and Hayley, to do a guest appearance on Disastermind.
Andy
by Guest » 03 Jun 2006, 22:46
I've e-mailed Bill about the sort of event I'm planning. It's primarily going to be "show" based with 3 or 4 messy shows throughout the day. The format will very much be an event where you can come along and record the shows yourself. I'm aware that some people want a big participation event with no recording but thats not really what I'm offering (and it seems now that maybe gungeslut is going to arrange an event of that kind...). As I said if you want to come along, see 3 or 4 really great shows starring models who are up for it and don't mind having their picture taken as well as being able to gunge or pie the models yourself (from off camera of course!) then I think it could be for you!
All we need is enough interest so email or PM me and we can take it from there! I've got the location and models, I just need about 40 people who want to come!
Love Clare, WAMprincess xxx
All we need is enough interest so email or PM me and we can take it from there! I've got the location and models, I just need about 40 people who want to come!
Love Clare, WAMprincess xxx
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by DecadentDoll » 03 Jun 2006, 22:52
Clare Rose wrote:Oooops that was me again!!!
C x
Doing a dolly is even a popular habit amongst the royal family
what models are gonna be there? I'm mega intrigued, could be fun!
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by Hayley » 04 Jun 2006, 02:12
Blimey, now we have people competing to put on events!
What's the betting they are on the same day!
Don't want to be a wet blanket (though being wet is always nice) but 40 people is a lot. Having said that, at the old mud wrestling shows in Putney (another long Bill story) got that many. Reckon you are making a lot of work for yourself, Clare, but enthusiasm is good.
Thanks for the email, we will reply to it tomorrow (hangover permitting)
Hayley and Bill
What's the betting they are on the same day!
Don't want to be a wet blanket (though being wet is always nice) but 40 people is a lot. Having said that, at the old mud wrestling shows in Putney (another long Bill story) got that many. Reckon you are making a lot of work for yourself, Clare, but enthusiasm is good.
Thanks for the email, we will reply to it tomorrow (hangover permitting)
Hayley and Bill
by Clare Rose » 04 Jun 2006, 10:24
Hayley! you naughty thing! This isn't Blur v Oasis in the singles war!
Seriously though, it seems that G.S's event idea is a bit different to mine so it's probably best we stage different events. I've had quite a few PM's and e-mails about the event I'm planning and I know there's been a lot of interest in the idea G.S had too. I think it would make sense to stagger them a bit so we don't end up with people getting "gunge-fatigue" and end up with fewer people at the events!
Love, Clare xxx
Seriously though, it seems that G.S's event idea is a bit different to mine so it's probably best we stage different events. I've had quite a few PM's and e-mails about the event I'm planning and I know there's been a lot of interest in the idea G.S had too. I think it would make sense to stagger them a bit so we don't end up with people getting "gunge-fatigue" and end up with fewer people at the events!
Love, Clare xxx
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