thing is Stonecastle,
If a random male starts talking to me in the street or a pub I make eye contact, smile and talk back... conversation drifts and we talk about more than just 'question and answer'. I don't want to appear rude, so I chat, tell them about myself.... It DOES not mean they have pulled.
Most girls will talk back to a guy who has started conversation with them randomly.
I act friendly, that does not mean I am interested in the slightest. I used to be very niave and think they were just being friendly so would be a bit shocked if they asked for my number, now I am a bit more aware and generally don't. If they get more forceful, I give them the 'flirt divert number',
ALSO HOW DO YOU ASK A WOMAN TO QUALIFY HERSELF?
In addition, if these techniques are SO great why are there 9760 topics on the 'Field Report' section - where they have FAILED to get their target and only 1990 on the section where they have a 'happy ending'.
Stonecastle, you are a really nice person and I really hope you find what you are looking for. I am very sceptical about the techniques you advocate.
tonights fantasy !
by alext » 21 Jan 2008, 13:35
zoegunge wrote:ALSO HOW DO YOU ASK A WOMAN TO QUALIFY HERSELF?
In addition, if these techniques are SO great why are there 9760 topics on the 'Field Report' section - where they have FAILED to get their target and only 1990 on the section where they have a 'happy ending'.
I've never once asked a Woman to qualify herself, something tells me a question like that (or phrased similarly) could be asking for a slap
A one in 6 success rate doesn't seem to be that great, no...if the NHS came up with that sort of a figure, methinks there'd be hell up!
by messyamature » 21 Jan 2008, 14:24
If a woman was to write like some of the men on that site about how many people they have slept with and scored them, would they not be called slappers etc?
Isn't the touching of someone invading their personal space? Doesn't matter if it is regarded as being non sexual, some women will take offence and a slap across the face often offends.
Isn't the touching of someone invading their personal space? Doesn't matter if it is regarded as being non sexual, some women will take offence and a slap across the face often offends.
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by BillShipton » 21 Jan 2008, 17:14
Perhaps to broaden this topic a bit and try and prevent it from going round in circles - or placing too great an emphasis of mental health issues, can I make a suggestion?
Perhaps those of you with partners (sploshing or otherwise) would like to recount how you 'picked them up' (ie met them and convinced them to go out). What was their appeal and what do you think your appeal was to them? Perhaps then we can see how people who aren't PUAs go about it successfully which might provide some valuable information and without paying $500 a time. Or it might just be a laugh.
Perhaps those of you with partners (sploshing or otherwise) would like to recount how you 'picked them up' (ie met them and convinced them to go out). What was their appeal and what do you think your appeal was to them? Perhaps then we can see how people who aren't PUAs go about it successfully which might provide some valuable information and without paying $500 a time. Or it might just be a laugh.
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by alext » 21 Jan 2008, 17:22
I've known my current girlfriend for about 12 years now - we've been best friends for about 8 of those, and things just evolved about 2 years ago. We've got a crap shower at the moment, but when the next one gets installed in the next few weeks, she's finally agreed to give WAM a go ^_^
Definitely one of those relationships for which the "Friends Zone" idea is disproven!
Definitely one of those relationships for which the "Friends Zone" idea is disproven!
by DecadentDoll » 21 Jan 2008, 18:17
I met my boyfriend Mike when he was playing drums in my friend's band. We had hung out in similar social circles but never actually met each other.
He and I chatted about music, cartoons and he was quite shy. He listened to me, I listened to him and there were no ...tactics. I did flirt a little... a few weeks later we were at the same gig and i pulled a few shameless moves, putting on glasses as i know they make my face look nice.... bought him a drink...then simply held his hand as we were chatting.... he followed me home that night (not for sex) and he later said it was cos i smelt so nice... that particular night i'd stashed a bag of weed in the side of my bra.... perhaps thats what attracted my big stoner drummer man!
its a silly story really, but 2 years on we're still together, he's not a splosher but he is supportive of me doing it, and he's so laid back and open minded and soooooooo unlike a pick up artist. That's what makes it last I think. Any relationship I've embarked on with a guy who used tactics has never last, or ended because he couldn't stop using his tactics on other people.
He and I chatted about music, cartoons and he was quite shy. He listened to me, I listened to him and there were no ...tactics. I did flirt a little... a few weeks later we were at the same gig and i pulled a few shameless moves, putting on glasses as i know they make my face look nice.... bought him a drink...then simply held his hand as we were chatting.... he followed me home that night (not for sex) and he later said it was cos i smelt so nice... that particular night i'd stashed a bag of weed in the side of my bra.... perhaps thats what attracted my big stoner drummer man!
its a silly story really, but 2 years on we're still together, he's not a splosher but he is supportive of me doing it, and he's so laid back and open minded and soooooooo unlike a pick up artist. That's what makes it last I think. Any relationship I've embarked on with a guy who used tactics has never last, or ended because he couldn't stop using his tactics on other people.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Dr Seuss
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by driversoft » 21 Jan 2008, 21:24
What I find interesting about the LSS is the breathtaking hypocrisy - the self-styled 'puas' who somehow justify this deliberate deceit (which it essentially is) because they're blokes - and that's what blokes do, right - and yet are unable to cope if the 'partner' they've deceived is also playing...
I suspect the 16% who are apparently successful will end up with the partners they deserve...
I suspect the 16% who are apparently successful will end up with the partners they deserve...
It wasn't that long ago that I'd punch someone in the face when they pissed me off; now I just delete them from Facebook - that'll show the mother-fuckers...
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by zoegunge » 22 Jan 2008, 00:03
Met my boyfriend working on a camp for seriously ill children, fell in love with him whilst he was singing campfire songs to them as I could see how kind and gentle he is.
spent the rest of the evening teasing, taking the piss, playfully hitting each other and generally flirting. all the while wanting him more and more.
.... The kids were sleeping in tents, at 4am there was a massive thumderstorm and we rushed to get the kids inside.
He walked me back to my room, and we started kissing surrounded by lightening in the pouring rain. Best night ever.
My other boyfriends just kind of happened... one I played waterpolo with so got to perv at him in little speedos
and the other I did Karate with so I got to fight 
we knew each other for a while before getting it on.
Stonecastle, do you have any hobbies... it may be worth starting one as it is a nice way to meet people in general.
spent the rest of the evening teasing, taking the piss, playfully hitting each other and generally flirting. all the while wanting him more and more.
.... The kids were sleeping in tents, at 4am there was a massive thumderstorm and we rushed to get the kids inside.
He walked me back to my room, and we started kissing surrounded by lightening in the pouring rain. Best night ever.
My other boyfriends just kind of happened... one I played waterpolo with so got to perv at him in little speedos
and the other I did Karate with so I got to fight
we knew each other for a while before getting it on.
Stonecastle, do you have any hobbies... it may be worth starting one as it is a nice way to meet people in general.
by captain sensible » 22 Jan 2008, 00:22
I've been going out with my girlfriend for about 7 months now. We met via an online dating site - I mesaged her first because she looked studious but really cute in her profile photo, and I've always had a thing for girls in glasses! Turned out she liked my picture too (even though I thought I looked smug in it, but put it up anyway).
We met and hit it off straight away - we're both the shy, quiet type so flirting was a bit less direct than DD's second date. We live 80 miles apart, so a lot of the 'getting-to-know-you' process happened via a series of long MSN chats during which we were absolutely honest with each other... and as a result it wasn't such a big deal to suggest getting messy with her one night! In fact it more sort of happened spontaneously (see http://www.splosh.co.uk/forum/viewtopic ... ght=#23333 ) rather than via particular planning.
In fact now I come to think about it, the weekend before the body butter incident we were walking through a nearby wood when we came to a particularly muddy patch in the path. I edged carefully round it to save my trainers, while she took off her flipflops and squelched through it...
And for those who care about such things (Stonecastle and any other followers of LSS) I've slept with a grand total of 6 women (and 2 men) in my 38 years, all of whom I've really liked as people as well as fancying them. Probably not enough to impress The Gambler (whoever the hell he is) but I've always rated quality over quantity!
We met and hit it off straight away - we're both the shy, quiet type so flirting was a bit less direct than DD's second date. We live 80 miles apart, so a lot of the 'getting-to-know-you' process happened via a series of long MSN chats during which we were absolutely honest with each other... and as a result it wasn't such a big deal to suggest getting messy with her one night! In fact it more sort of happened spontaneously (see http://www.splosh.co.uk/forum/viewtopic ... ght=#23333 ) rather than via particular planning.
In fact now I come to think about it, the weekend before the body butter incident we were walking through a nearby wood when we came to a particularly muddy patch in the path. I edged carefully round it to save my trainers, while she took off her flipflops and squelched through it...
And for those who care about such things (Stonecastle and any other followers of LSS) I've slept with a grand total of 6 women (and 2 men) in my 38 years, all of whom I've really liked as people as well as fancying them. Probably not enough to impress The Gambler (whoever the hell he is) but I've always rated quality over quantity!
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by Richard » 22 Jan 2008, 01:06
Each winter, from October til Easter, the naturist club of which I am a member hires a local swimming pool for an hour or so on Sunday afternoons so that we can keep fit and keep in contact while the weather is too cold for sunbathing. After we have had our swim we usually adjourn to the small (and warmer) learners pool for a chat. I met a lady there and for a while talked about cooking, Scrabble (her passion - she was a champion at one time) and other general topics. I realised that I was making progress when she agreed to go out for a meal with our clothes on!
We have been together ever since although we still maintain our own houses. Sometimes we share her bed and sometimes mine. We also go on holidays together and have met each other's families but neither of us wants marriage. It seems a very satisfactory arrangement.
She is not into wam but I have had a couple of water fights with two of her grand-daughters.
We have been together ever since although we still maintain our own houses. Sometimes we share her bed and sometimes mine. We also go on holidays together and have met each other's families but neither of us wants marriage. It seems a very satisfactory arrangement.
She is not into wam but I have had a couple of water fights with two of her grand-daughters.
Bottoms Up!
by stonecastle » 22 Jan 2008, 21:00
By the way here are two television interviews with Britains best pick up artists, these interviews will probably convince the doubters that good pick up skills can be learnt.
Interview with Gambler(Richard La Ruina).
Interview with Adam Lyons
Interview with Gambler(Richard La Ruina).
Interview with Adam Lyons
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by driversoft » 22 Jan 2008, 21:42
stonecastle wrote:By the way here are two television interviews with Britains best pick up artists, these interviews will probably convince the doubters that good pick up skills can be learnt.
Interview with Gambler(Richard La Ruina).
Interview with Adam Lyons
Well, I grant that they're confident, and conventionally good looking to a fair number of women (I imagine) - but everything else is just marketing crap. If you want to pay people to advise you to ask random women to help look for your lost squirrel (that's wearing pink trainers), I guess that's your business - but I imagine it'll be the women, not the squirrels, who think they're collecting nuts...
It wasn't that long ago that I'd punch someone in the face when they pissed me off; now I just delete them from Facebook - that'll show the mother-fuckers...
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by Etonman » 22 Jan 2008, 22:32
These people are clearly confident "salesmen", but we are still "going round in circles" as to the purpose (and ethics?) of the whole "pick-up" concept in the real world.
Most here seem to have successfully met partners through a combination of chance and circumstances, but often helped by being involved with hobbies and interests in common, rather than deliberately setting out to pull someone just to score in bed.
I also met my present partner of five years through internet dating...to me this has the big advantage that you know that the person you meet will have some interests in common...this easily breaks the ice and gives you something to chat about immediately. I met several girls, all of whom I got on with well (yes, some of them in bed too, if you insist), two still remain in contact as friends by occasional emails (yes, my partner does know), and every meeting was fun in different ways.
My present partner contacted me, rather than the other way round, and,
initially I thought, from her description, that we would not have much in common. But our different experiences and interests actually proved to be something new to share for both of us, and we just got on, in and out of bed, from the first date.
We, too, have kept our separate houses so far, mainly for convenience for work and travel, but we also quite like our own space occasionally.
So, personally, I just don't think that "training" would have altered my own situation for the better (even the dating site was a free membership offer!).
Most here seem to have successfully met partners through a combination of chance and circumstances, but often helped by being involved with hobbies and interests in common, rather than deliberately setting out to pull someone just to score in bed.
I also met my present partner of five years through internet dating...to me this has the big advantage that you know that the person you meet will have some interests in common...this easily breaks the ice and gives you something to chat about immediately. I met several girls, all of whom I got on with well (yes, some of them in bed too, if you insist), two still remain in contact as friends by occasional emails (yes, my partner does know), and every meeting was fun in different ways.
My present partner contacted me, rather than the other way round, and,
initially I thought, from her description, that we would not have much in common. But our different experiences and interests actually proved to be something new to share for both of us, and we just got on, in and out of bed, from the first date.
We, too, have kept our separate houses so far, mainly for convenience for work and travel, but we also quite like our own space occasionally.
So, personally, I just don't think that "training" would have altered my own situation for the better (even the dating site was a free membership offer!).
by DecadentDoll » 23 Jan 2008, 20:03
Im not doubting that some of these tactics do get men sex or indeed a few dates.
My point, and no doubt the point of others, is that you don't NEED this strange cult of ideas and tips and money to do it.
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My point, and no doubt the point of others, is that you don't NEED this strange cult of ideas and tips and money to do it.
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by Trashcan » 24 Jan 2008, 00:38
me how I met the other half initially was about 5 years ago on an online chat forum for goths where the silliest things are said - you had to be on netgoth about 6 months before you got the chat routine let alone get to know people anyway .. we got chatting and then I was up in Doncaster/ Sheffield for a railway event then goth club night with another friend ...... didn't meet her at that club night tho she was there ... I had a fun silly time at club so came up again a bit more relaxed and at the end of the night she came over to me putting on a silly australian accent and we just chatted a bit .. .. we kept in touch online then about 6 months after first meeting her we got together at the end of the whitby goth wekend .. so a bit of a chance a bit of plannning, a lot of sillyness and a fare old dollop of dodgy goth tunes got me where I am now ...
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